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by MichelM » 27/05/08, 16:11

Hello André

Thank you for the info, it is true that there are also small equipment (?) On my Mercedes that look like solenoid valves, some on the water circuit and preheating Webasto ...
First job: the steam generator in stainless steel and find suitable solder.

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by Cuicui » 27/05/08, 16:22

MichelM wrote:find suitable solder

I brazed without problem of the oxy-acetylenic torch stainless steel with sticks brass pre-coated
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by jime » 27/05/08, 17:31

Hello

I who starts in welding I'm afraid of nothing and I try everything :D

I confirm that I have not managed to solder stainless steel on stainless steel with silver solder and stripper for silver solder, I tried with solder for copper and brass, yellow coated solder and I I succeeded, will understand nevertheless it is good stainless steel, after I do not know its exact composition
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by Flytox » 27/05/08, 22:51

Hello MichelM

For 3 industrial valves, the valve part is standard and the coil part is removable and can be ordered as needed.

For "automotive" 3-way valves, no idea if it is able to withstand temperature, but you can find it on some air conditioning.

For brazing on stainless steel, it is much more delicate than on the vulgar scrap. A badly chosen nozzle and it is completely missed, especially if you have overheated, it forms a kind of darker film on which nothing takes. You can stop the torch and take the whole surface (file or Emeri canvas) to bare it if you want it to walk again. If the flow is not adapted, you also lose your time, cons when you have the good, it almost seems like it's easy, it spreads itself properly .... a treat : Mrgreen:
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by jime » 27/05/08, 23:14

yet I tried with different t ° of soft flame
maybe the flow? the flow is the oxygen-acetylene mixture?
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by Flytox » 27/05/08, 23:40

Hello Jime

The flux is the stripper which allows the solder to "wet" the part when hot.
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by jime » 28/05/08, 00:16

arf ok

no it does not come from there, I had the good stripper, silver castollin chopsticks 3217 and fx 3217 stripper that goes with
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by MichelM » 28/05/08, 07:30

Bonjour à tous

Thank you for your experience, I had the same problems actually, no wetting everywhere, dark and hard film that must be stripped to continue, and very poor sealing obviously ...
I had "normal" coated rods, I also tried with silver ones, this time I have to find the flux suitable for stainless steel.
For the solenoid valves I should not need it for the moment I go back to the steam inlet above the throttle butterfly, the positive pressure of the steam will naturally go to the air box in slight depression, if it does not give no result I will return to the suction under the butterfly solenoid valve to cut at low speeds but as I often use the engine at these speeds I may not have any effect in these conditions ...

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by I Citro » 28/05/08, 10:56

: Arrow: Ben the ideal would be to have 2 nozzles of different diameter.
- a small nozzle for slow motion
- a larger diameter nozzle controlled by solenoid valve for charging operation.
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by roms44 » 28/05/08, 10:57

I suggest everyone to see this site

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www.water4gas.com


there are a hundred manufacturers in the USA of this system.

I made and installed on my auto diesel.
I would only say one thing, it works perfectly and I invite anyone who wants to come to my house to see that.
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