Destroy my fireplace to put a steel pipe?

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by dodo » 06/04/12, 19:27

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dodo wrote:in any case deleco make you good publicity : Mrgreen:


it's because he is not a client : Mrgreen:


it's less reassuring .. : Mrgreen:


the first proposition comes from a company that starts with R, I'm sure P.schutt knows it.
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by Philippe Schutt » 07/04/12, 10:24

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is this P. Schutt confirms that the workforce must be specified.


no, but the advice remains valid. The quote must be clear enough so that you don't have any unpleasant surprises.

Labor can be included in a price per m2 or ml, can also be a package, the overall service can also be a package. Finally you want to know what will be done and at what global price.
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by dodo » 12/04/12, 19:18

I think we will not have much choice, we must break the part of the chimney in the attic and replace it with a double wall stainless steel pipe with a small Chinese hat : Mrgreen:

concerning the part of the duct in the habitable part which must be filled in + debarking, would it not be more advisable to pass into double-walled casing in order to recover part of the heat.
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by Philippe Schutt » 12/04/12, 20:57

you can stay in a single wall in the room where the stove is, it is already recovering quite a bit. But then, what do you mean by double wall?
If it's the same as in the attic, ok.
If you think of a PGI concentric conduit of Poujoulat, it is not so tight to the assemblies without the joints.
You can also see the hydro stoves if you have a water radiator circuit or even the wood boiler. At least it doesn't make dirt in the living room.
And there are casing elements that allow you to recover a little (over 1m).
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by dodo » 12/04/12, 21:27

Philippe Schutt wrote:you can stay in a single wall in the room where the stove is, it is already recovering quite a bit. But then, what do you mean by double wall?
If it's the same as in the attic, ok.
If you think of a PGI concentric conduit of Poujoulat, it is not so tight to the assemblies without the joints.
You can also see the hydro stoves if you have a water radiator circuit or even the wood boiler. At least it doesn't make dirt in the living room.
And there are casing elements that allow you to recover a little (over 1m).


I was told that it was not the norm to put a single wall inside and even with a double wall you have to put it around it because it can reach 70 degrees.

double walls is insulating tubing.
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by Philippe Schutt » 13/04/12, 08:12

you have to put a cover sheet, yes. it still recovers heat
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by dodo » 13/04/12, 10:48

Philippe Schutt wrote:you have to put a cover sheet, yes. it still recovers heat

ok, and if we decide to keep the pipe and pipe inside.
can we also benefit from the inertia of the bushel and the masonry.

after the question that may arise is whether the duct is sealed given the history.
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by Philippe Schutt » 13/04/12, 13:43

there is little or no heat returned by a cased chimney. The fumes are not in contact with the bushels, there is a slightly ventilated air space.
Sealing is no longer a problem since it is ensured by the casing. The bushels only provide the support function.
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by dodo » 13/04/12, 21:24

Philippe Schutt wrote:there is little or no heat returned by a cased chimney. The fumes are not in contact with the bushels, there is a slightly ventilated air space.
Sealing is no longer a problem since it is ensured by the casing. The bushels only provide the support function.


so a casing with a placo flame covering with ventilation grilles to recover would be ideal.
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by Philippe Schutt » 13/04/12, 21:39

tssss.
As soon as you change premises, it is necessarily isolated. in the same room as the stove you can do it, by insulating the internal face of the box and making a small decompression box on the ceiling, exactly like a chimney hood.
If you want to recover so much take a mass stove or a hydro, it will be more rational.
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