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by Gwenved » 25/05/12, 10:52

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i will need gas for the chainsaw

but no, you have to saw by hand, very good exercise for health, arms, and heart lungs !!!

In addition, well heated by exercise, you will be less cold and burn less wood, and avoid a lot of colds !!

It's fun to cut down by hand with a saw, a whole tree like a pine or an oak, which I did !!!


I already tried. Suddenly I blocked my chainsaw, I put a good 2 hours with an ax and saw to cut a 40 cm trunk.
Lately, I had fun slaughtering 2 20m spruces (there are a thousand) rotten with an ax. 30 min each! I made the logs with a chainsaw: 15 min each. level speed there is no photo.

But when I cut a tree I always do the maximum by hand (shears or ax). Then I split the merlin, mass and corners.
Small oak woods, I made fagots for the fireplace. The other hardwoods I pass to the crusher for the vegetable garden. The oak is too twisted and hard for the grinder. The spruce branches I leave them for a year on the ground and then I burn them.
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by elephant » 25/05/12, 16:42

Yeah, I see, you are young, absent during the day, I guess, well isolated and stoic :D
maybe your winters are mild too?

But, I am amazed by the € 500 of electricity: it is before the wind turbine or after the wind turbine or it is the Belgian electricity which is expensive? (I make about 900 € of electricity: no electric boiler, but a freezer in addition to the fridge, electric stove)
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by Gwenved » 25/05/12, 17:20

absent during the day, no my wife has no job.
But we follow the ecological recommendations (turn off the lights when leaving the rooms, the watches ...) but it's natural for us.

The 500 € is last year, we will have the wind turbine this summer.
It seems to me that we had consumed 3900kW: oven, kettle, fridge, LCD TV, laptop, freezer, dehumidifier, low consumption bulbs, vegetable shredder, hedge trimmer

But we had hallucinated when we saw the program 'a week without electricity', some had 2000 € bill.

But in Brittany, the winters are generally mild.
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by plasmanu » 25/05/12, 17:52

One big bill is elec hot water.
For 500 € per year less the subscription is very very good.
Blue tariff. Day / night or fixed?

Since you were heating fuel. Heating is not to be taken into account. And tomorrow a good double combustion stove will delight you wonderfully.

I have a Jotul double combustion for log of 33 is too the top.
Except in good weather: he likes the outdoors -20 and it happens every 20 years.
Hard to light because the smoke hesitates to return by the air intake.
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by dedeleco » 25/05/12, 17:57

The 50cm logs are much more practical !!!
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by Gwenved » 25/05/12, 18:02

we are in day / night subscription, and we take advantage of it at night to launch the machines.

there is a peculiarity that will perhaps jump, it is an electric water heater that is started up in summer when you turn off the boiler instead of switching it to 'summer' mode. The former owners said it was more economical.
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by plasmanu » 25/05/12, 18:05

Yes, but a log of 50 for my Belgian Franco.
Equal 2 logs of 25 for my jotul.
The jotul has a better output: therefore it is more heating for less wood with at the start a log of 50.

Franco Belgian double combustion also accepts up to 60 per side.
I cut loose wood.
The small one for the jotul and the rest style dead vine stock for the other
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by plasmanu » 25/05/12, 18:08

Without the boiler. The water heater will be total elec over the year.
Not to say that after the wind turbine you pay less than € 500 a year.
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by Gwenved » 25/05/12, 18:36

with the log boiler, there will be a 1500l buffer tank which will be used for radiators and DHW.
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by plasmanu » 25/05/12, 18:46

So the same configuration as fuel oil. ECS elec summer.
Less automation: manually load the boiler with logs.
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