electrolysis improved

[gildas]

Since the beginning in Jan-Feb 2011, on a lot of forums specialized, usually in English, for example e-catworld or nyteknik.se, a number of speakers (including myself) expressed their disappointment at Rossi's demonstrations on the e-cat which appear to be unsuitable, too short, even falsifiable, and therefore not very convincing. It is certain that if, as of June 2011, he had entrusted his gadget to independent experimenters, he would have been more convinced. But he has a blue scare that we dismantle his thing (go prevent a lab from being robbed when such financial potentials are at stake) and therefore, no question of lending it to anyone! Whether true or phony.

It is a priori the same problem with Utopiatech (?)

[elephant]

With the difference that Rossi (I still can't comment on the reality of his thing) succeeds!

JMMoreau has been groaning since at least 2006 and doesn't seem to be crowding!
Rossi is about American investors: http://www.e-catworld.com/2014/01/24/pr ... echnology/ and, if we get drunk on info, it is rather discreet at the theoretical level and does not fill us with literature like JMM.

Difference: certainly, he did not comply with really convincing protocols, but summoned people and made it known.

Basically, how would I do?

1) Of course I would look at my measurement protocols twice so as not to look ridiculous. I would cross-check lab measurements / long-term measurements.

2) I would post demos on Youtube / Vimeo.

3) I would invite famous people (not fashionable singers, of course) to a demo, with their measuring devices, in the presence of a cameraman. I would suggest a protocol to them, but we would follow theirs if they do not agree with mine. Of course, you will need to have a few trappist bins and sandwiches

4) I would exploit N ° 3, via the press

Of course, the ideal is to entrust a device that works to a laboratory, but this is the crux of the problem: how to ensure that the device will not be dismantled or stolen?

The other knot is of course: who really has something that works well beyond measurement errors in their cellar?

the protocol problem is very important: what proves that JMM did not deceive the bailiff with the help of a hose well hidden in his old Mitsubishi? The test would have been more convincing over 2000 km. What proves that Rossi in his first demos (too short) did not hide a chemical reagent in his reactor? In which case a test over several hours would have convinced more.

[gildas]

the protocol problem is very important: what proves that JMM did not deceive the bailiff with the help of a hose well hidden in his old Mitsubishi? The test would have been more convincing over 2000 km. What proves that Rossi in his first demos (too short) did not hide a chemical reagent in his reactor? In which case a test over several hours would have convinced more.

From another angle, one has the impression that this text is trolled ...

By doing research on Simon L. Ruskin, we come across the rocket engines and then the ion engine.
This works with xenon which is broken down with electricity allowing the vessel to move. The xenon seems to be recomposed on the exhaust.

Then this space engine is reminiscent of it.

It reminds me of my work in supermarkets, simple solutions exist to improve things but they are mocked and never chosen.

This world is not going well.

[elephant]

Gildas said:

It reminds me of my work in supermarkets, simple solutions exist to improve things but they are mocked and never chosen.

And in politics, therefore!

Always the same thing: when the solutions are simple, you walk on the flower beds of others who will therefore consider them unacceptable. (Eg: the socialist party will never want the dismissal of long-term foreign unemployed people, for fear of losing votes)

I'll send you a mp in a few minutes

[gildas]

Hybrid hydrogen engine by electrolysis

+ 50% fuel savings:

1) Fewer illnesses and less spending on drugs because less pollution.

2) + money for the people because less taxed.

3) Lower prices on materials and on most of the products present in the store because cheaper transport and cheaper manufacturing for some. (e.g. cereal crops)

4) Less taxes because less diesel to build roads and public buildings.
(less fuel consumption for Elysée cars)

5) Increase in sales of new cars and new commercial vehicles because they consume less (job creation)

6) Travel cheaper by trains, boats and passenger planes.

7) Less oil to seek and less oil spills.

Possible reduction in working time because less expenses.

[elephant]

You make me think of Rossi, there!

You praise the advantages of a system before proving it .

As for the reduction in taxes, trust the imagination of the taxman: the car that runs without fuel, but only with taxes is probably already ready in the boxes of the Ministry of Finance. Which unfortunately makes sense: maintaining roads is expensive!

[gildas]

You make me think of Rossi, there!

You praise the advantages of a system before proving it .

Go see what Eric Sortino poses: (click my message)
https://www.econologie.com/forums/la-voiture ... 22-60.html

17% fuel savings with HHO.

[elephant]

I found the web page of our old friend nlc:

http://chaenel.free.fr/cmsimple/?Electr ... et_calculs

an electrolysis current can supply 0.627 l / hour of gas (faraday law)

so, in a car, a 6 X 2 cell of 20 amps (beyond, you screw your battery and your alternator quickly) will allow 75 l / h (not enough to go as far as Timbuktu)

[gildas]

I found the web page of our old friend nlc:

http://chaenel.free.fr/cmsimple/?Electr ... et_calculs

an electrolysis current can supply 0.627 l / hour of gas (faraday law)

so, in a car, a 6 X 2 cell of 20 amps (beyond, you screw your battery and your alternator quickly) will allow 75 l / h (not enough to go as far as Timbuktu)

It still remains an honorable gas production for 20 amps.
(with the original alternator)

I have the impression that you did not guess a calculation ...

[elephant]

the calculation is not mine, it is nlc according to Faraday's law.

confirmed by the measurements, especially with my own elephtrolyser