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by Cuicui » 28/06/13, 14:34

highflyaddict wrote:Strongly relevant? .... Are you serious !?! It's just great anything!
To cross with https://www.econologie.com/forums/changement ... 12619.html
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by Ahmed » 28/06/13, 22:33

... how is it that glaciers located at more than 2000 meters of altitude also melt, since the CO2 is heavier than air?

wonders RP-V: for the same reason that life is impossible at sea level! : Cheesy:
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by highfly-addict » 28/06/13, 22:39

Excellent! : Cheesy:
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by Cuicui » 28/06/13, 22:48

highflyaddict wrote:Excellent! : Cheesy:
A stupidity, certainly. Is this reason enough to condemn all the rest?
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by chatelot16 » 29/06/13, 00:36

of course it is not because there is an error on one point that the rest is false too

but it reminds us that paper can be written, even worse on the net than on paper!

and as the fashion of the net is to copy one on the other, it is not because there are many to be wrong that they are right (coluche)
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by Surfeurseb » 29/06/13, 11:40

RV-P wrote:1— CO2 is "a scapegoat" and a false problem!
2- If CO2 is really responsible for global warming, how is it that glaciers located at more than 2000 meters of altitude also melt, since CO2 is heavier than air ?
3- Would it also be responsible for the warming observed by several scientists (who we tried to close our mouths!) Throughout the solar system (the ice caps of Mars, our nearest neighbor, have shrunk!)? ...
4- There is also this very important part of the CO2 coming ... volcanoes! Have we tried to simply find out what is coming out of the Hawaiian volcano that has been erupting permanently for at least 30 years?!? ...
5- We breathe and we peck, do not we!? ... What part of CO2 comes out of us?
6- Anyway, we are made entirely of carbohydrates ... CARBON! So, if we want to do a "haro" on CO2, we would have to disappear from the planet !!!
7- By cons, what we have forgotten is ... solar activity ! In the 2000 years, it was at its peak, the Sun resembling a ruffled ball, traversed over its entire surface by gigantic solitary eruptions.
8- Today, for several years, it is "dead calm" (And to think that we are trying to silence the scientists who have observed it !!!)! Following that, the very long, cold and wet winter, the absence of spring that you undergo in metropolitan France, that does not put you "the chip in the ear"?
9- Glaciers melt, but the ice of Antarctica, which compensates for the melting of glaciers! The ice floes and icebergs, the ice that floats on the ocean, can melt: it is not she who will participate in the rise of the sea level, since she is already in the water (Do the experiment with a glass of water and ice cubes!)! On the contrary: it will participate in the level decline by the melting of 9 / 10ème immersed ice and the contraction that ensues (the water is diluted by freezing!)!
10 - So, before accusing CO2 of "warming" our planet, we should perhaps find out from those who find the opposite, right !? ...
11- And if the industrialists really wanted to save the planet, they would start by themselves, no!? ... Example: to force consumers to sort their waste whilethere are more and more products overpacked by thicker and thicker plastic, the prices of electric cars that are double the price of a petrol or diesel car, etc ...!





1- see previous post. The CO2 released after natural clearance cycle then capture, leads to a change in the atmospheric CO2 level.

2- no need to add more, Chatelot and Ahmed have already answered

3- The climate on Mars is unknown because we do not have enough data. So we do not know the cycles of extension-decrease of the ice caps. No evidence of Mars warming is validated

4- obviously that volcanoes are taken into account, even more those of Hawaii which shelter a colony of scientists to length of years.

5- natural cycle of CO2: it is not the one that disturbs, it is the other one that is extracted from the ground and that one rejects in the atmosphere (hydrocarbons, ...)

6- natural cycle of CO2. We are not talking about suppressing man, but reducing his footprint related to polluting activities.

7- "we" forgot solar activity? Scientists know full well that it is the biggest contributor to the earth's climate. And precisely, for a few decades, the global temperature of the earth is no longer finely correlated by the activity of the sun, hence the work on CO2 and other influential factors.

8- "It's cold at home, warming is bad": in recent years, many regions of the world have broken heat records.
do not confuse climate and weather in addition.

9 - glaciers thicken in Antarctica? source? What is demonstrated is that the Antarctic ice sheet is expanding. the strongest hypothesis of the moment shows that it is precisely because of the melting of glaciers, which increases the amount of fresh water around this continent, which therefore freezes more easily winter.
rising sea levels have always taken into account the melting of GLACIERS, not the pack ice, and also the dilation of the warmer oceans.

10- you mean that we should do a poll among people: "do you have the impression that the climate is warming?". again, do not confuse climate and weather

11 - manufacturers do not seek to save the planet, for sure, they seek to be profitable. Selling products in small containers is more than big. as long as there are people to buy them ... And with the money earned, you adapt to everything. They can even succeed in selling by making believe that it will save the planet!
more and more thick plastic: well, no. In recent years, manufacturers have made a lot of effort on the use of plastic,
to preserve their profitability. It's easy to see that water bottles are getting thinner, garbage bags are getting thinner, and so on. They too, they are in the savings! But when polluting costs less, there is less fun: it is often money that wins.
electric cars? gasoline cars cost the price they cost thanks to the enormous quantities manufactured. Not even 1% are electric cars. If a builder knew how to make expensive electric cars, he would do it, even more so at this time or they would like to sell more, cars ...

It's scary, Internet. With the amount of cigarettes that can be read, and that look so commonsense when you do not have the minimum of critical thinking. People think they are informed when they are misinformed, think that because they have access to all this information then they know more than the scientists concerned ...
That's not what will advance science ...
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by moinsdewatt » 29/06/13, 13:15

chatelot16 wrote:for the production of CO2 the harm has been done for a long time!

there was a lot of CO2 emitted a century ago when the industry was smaller than today but fully coal with inefficient machines consuming more to produce less .....


Poof poof poof.

Annual emissions of CO2 since the end of the 19ieme siécle:

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Source: International Energy Agency.
http://dr-petrole-mr-carbone.com/climat ... mmediates/

it is from 1950 that it becomes feared.
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by moinsdewatt » 29/06/13, 13:17

RV-P wrote:
- If CO2 is really responsible for global warming, how is it that glaciers located at more than 2000 meters of altitude also melt, since CO2 is heavier than air ?
.....!


crass scientific nullity.

CO2 is diluted in the atmosphere and does not sediment. : Evil:
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by Cuicui » 29/06/13, 19:01

moinsdewatt wrote:
RV-P wrote:- If CO2 is really responsible for global warming, how is it that glaciers located at more than 2000 meters of altitude also melt, since CO2 is heavier than air ? .....!
crass scientific nullity. CO2 is diluted in the atmosphere and does not sediment. : Evil:
Unfortunate, of course, but is that all that you have learned from the presentation of RV-P ? The emission of CO2 contributes to global warming, but it seems that there are also other causes that go beyond the simple terrestrial dimension.
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by highfly-addict » 29/06/13, 20:47

Well then .... : Shock:

SureurSeb must be happy to have made the effort to respond point by point to this dish towel ...
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