Vegetable garden of the (super) lazy in the 04 (800m)

[Did67]

At the sight of this image, I found myself in my memories of boys! I emptied some, frames of this type (to fill them with manure and make warm layers); I stacked piles of glazing (my father's had only 3 panes, not 4 like those; but the same type of frame and handles!) ... My god!

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[sicetaitsimple]

He said it clearly at the start: his first source of inspiration was the Parisian market gardeners. Alsatian market gardeners and others are certainly very close in their practices.

[Did67]

I no longer know where we were talking about CO² compensation. The message below fell into my mailbox today! (I flew on Hop, a subsidiary of Air FRance).

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I wonder how they would manage to plant all these trees if others did not cut down the forests ???

[phil12]

Good evening,

And how to compensate, heavy metals, fine particles etc from the combustion of kerosene?

[sicetaitsimple]

And how to compensate, heavy metals, fine particles etc from the combustion of kerosene?

You only move on foot or by bike (non-electric)?

[phil12]

And how to compensate, heavy metals, fine particles etc from the combustion of kerosene?

You only move on foot or by bike (non-electric)?

Yes and barefoot!

[sicetaitsimple]

And how to compensate, heavy metals, fine particles etc from the combustion of kerosene?

You only move on foot or by bike (non-electric)?

Yes and barefoot!

So there, nothing to say! It deserves a medal.

[Adrien (ex-nico239)]

the greenhouse tarpaulin, ideal for light, but for the cold it is still the P30 which will protect the best?

otherwise you know this book
"Vegetables in winter" by Eliot Coleman published by Actes Sud.

Yes I know very well.

But again it all depends on your climate.

Maybe for you another combination than mine is enough ...
I have 4 layers ... so uh .... X possible combinations.

It's up to you to test and see which one best suits your climate

yes indeed, you have to adapt, but the big blow of frost, once or twice a winter it can happen, so light it will pass 99% of the time and bang and in one night you lose everything

if not the book you know or not?
or someone else
it interests me a little, because apparently he gives varieties of vegetables precisely to grow in winter

Yes I have it ... we will talk about it again ...

[Adrien (ex-nico239)]

So all this to say that 2 layers of P30 will be resistant to manipulation.

But the ideal is to put ONLY a greenhouse tarp.
As said above it is to be decided according to your climate and the tests done or to be done.

the greenhouse tarpaulin, ideal for light, but for the cold it is still the P30 which will protect the best?

Otherwise you can also compensate with bells.

I started the comparative tests yesterday
Temperature tests
Growing tests
Germination tests

I had already done it last year.
This one confirms all the interest of the bells which for very few manipulations (at our level) make you win between 1 and 2 °.

Well obviously I did not invent anything, just used the simple techniques of the past with odds and ends.

Outside -6.7
low chassis double tinkered -1.7
low trunk under bell -0.5 (for info the plastic bell, style pot of balls of grease for birds, is put in any way, that is to say just posed, I will make a new statement like this and then I l will sink into the ground.
tall chest without taparel or bottles -2.6
high chest without taparel or bottles in a bell (kerdane can) -0.2 (same as just placed on the ground but not pushed in, so with heat loss)

[Moindreffor]

I have a small digital thermometer which gives maxi-mini temperature inside outside
the mini must be that of last year (I have just reset it to zero) and it is -6,9 ° C, it is along a wall of the house to the north, so not to the vegetable garden which is a little lower, after I have a classic mini-maxi thermometer in the garden shed, I will take a look later
so apparently you’ve already hit our lowest point last year, and your protections show that we can almost avoid freezing, so that’s encouraging for what I want to do

after I saw and we already talked about it here I think, that a negative temperature under shelter was much better tolerated even lower than in the open field, and that -3 or even -4 ° C under shelter it could pass for non-chilly vegetables, do you believe it?