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Re: Auxiliary cats from organic farming

Unread Messageby nico239 » 08/01/19, 15:53

perplex wrote:I started by buying a tube (Friday), which will end in a staircase of the attic, I immediately saw the magnitude of the job to do a reasonable thing :)

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Ooh la ... good I'm not a specialist but (unless wrong) your nest boxes are mobile or I gurge?
If this is it I doubt (for nest boxes) that this is the right solution, did you seek advice from the LPO?
But maybe I gorged myself, I would opt for FIXED type as below.

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The LPO link that provides examples
https://boutique.lpo.fr/catalogue/jardi ... /nichoirs/

The LPO brochure
https://auvergne-rhone-alpes.lpo.fr/act ... un-nichoir
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Re: Auxiliary cats from organic farming

Unread Messageby perplex » 08/01/19, 16:01

As you could see there is a nest box fixed on the workshop, which has never seen anyone, they go back and forth immediately (tits)
The nest boxes that you see hanging should turn into a manger.
Before having 3 cats years old, I had fixed and mobile feeders no customer concerns :) but never the crowd either ...
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Re: Auxiliary cats from organic farming

Unread Messageby nico239 » 08/01/19, 16:10

perplex wrote:As you could see there is a nest box fixed on the workshop, which has never seen anyone, they go back and forth immediately (tits)
The nest boxes that you see hanging should turn into a manger.
Before having 3 cats years old, I had fixed and mobile feeders no customer concerns :) but never the crowd either ...


I was not talking about the fixed of course ... : Wink:

For no soucy feeders
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Re: Auxiliary cats from organic farming

Unread Messageby Leo Maximus » 08/01/19, 19:03

nico239 wrote:
Leo Maximus wrote:Abandoned abandoned cats end up in a gas chamber (see my post in another thread). It is the members of Hunting Societies (including one of my relatives) who take care of it and they receive subsidies for that. Cats are cremated and their ashes are used as fertilizer.


You have official info on it ...

Because shelters are full of old cats ... unfortunately.

And what must remain of ashes once a cremated cat it must not be bezef so to make a bag of 30kg which is NOT GREAT THING on the industrial scale it is necessary to massacre a sacred packet of cats for ONE ONLY BAG.

I have never heard of that but I do want some official info on the subject.

I speak well of the gassing of the cats FOR a transformation in fertilizer. (and not gassing shelter animals)

climate-change-co2 / off-of-mass-anthropogenic-c-is-gone-my-dick-t12253-80.html

On the planet Bisounours 300000 corpses of cats abandoned and euthanized each year by veterinarians are stuffed and exposed in a huge museum. The museum now has more than 150 million stuffed cats and visitors, former owners of these cats, are extremely numerous and pay very high their entry ticket ... : Lol:

The reality always exceeding the fiction, the 300000 corpses of abandoned cats euthanized industrially each year (in France) are "recovered" by the industry. By my home is incineration, mixed with other animal waste, and it becomes a "raw material". In my department, we produce thousands of tons a year.

It is perfectly legal, it is the Prefect who defines / modifies the legal framework.

Cruel world ? : Mrgreen: We should start by condemning THREE Heavily those who abandon animals, this bloody world would be a little less cruel ...
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Re: Auxiliary cats from organic farming

Unread Messageby Leo Maximus » 08/01/19, 19:29

Moindreffor wrote:... I totally agree with you, I ask myself the question of where to install my feeders to not gather the birds within the reach of the claws of my cat, and I will ask myself the same question for the nest boxes,
Why do you think the LPO refuge panel is provocative? for my part, it will be affixed to my garden shed at the sight of anyone

The shot of the metal rod 2 meters seems good, a cat will not climb, but it will hide nearby and wait for the birds are on the ground to jump on them, which will inevitably happen.

The circle fence also protects the birds on the ground. Initially, I had put concrete irons to fix the fence on the ground and stiffen it but it made it easier for them, he climbed along the reinforcing bars! The fence must be soft so that it bends when the cat starts to climb. He tries once, twice and then gives up. The grid can be fixed to the ground with U-irons.

An invisible LPO panel from the street is not provocative ...
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Re: Auxiliary cats from organic farming

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Leo Maximus wrote:
nico239 wrote:
Leo Maximus wrote:Abandoned abandoned cats end up in a gas chamber (see my post in another thread). It is the members of Hunting Societies (including one of my relatives) who take care of it and they receive subsidies for that. Cats are cremated and their ashes are used as fertilizer.


You have official info on it ...

Because shelters are full of old cats ... unfortunately.

And what must remain of ashes once a cremated cat it must not be bezef so to make a bag of 30kg which is NOT GREAT THING on the industrial scale it is necessary to massacre a sacred packet of cats for ONE ONLY BAG.

I have never heard of that but I do want some official info on the subject.

I speak well of the gassing of the cats FOR a transformation in fertilizer. (and not gassing shelter animals)

climate-change-co2 / off-of-mass-anthropogenic-c-is-gone-my-dick-t12253-80.html


It does not give me any more information on the gassing of cats in mass to manufacture fertilizers in our country ... Image

You would have links on this activity in France?
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Re: Auxiliary cats from organic farming

Unread Messageby Leo Maximus » 08/01/19, 21:37

nico239 wrote:It does not give me any more information on the gassing of cats in mass to manufacture fertilizers in our country ...
You would have links on this activity in France?

Fertilizers are not produced by mass gassing. : Lol:

I am talking about cats ABANDONED. Abandoned cats are first found in shelters where they stay for a while. Those who have not been adopted are euthanized. Since we do not have the means to afford the luxury of a vet officiating by sting then we proceed by mass gassing. Cats are first thrown in a jute bag (like potato bags), the bag is closed by a tie and placed in a metal box. Close the watertight door and open the gas (carbon monoxide bottle Air Liquide). After a few minutes, it's over.
It's economical. The corpses then become a raw material for the industry, like all dead animals.
In my department, the operators are "reliable" people of the Federation of hunters. They are appointed by the prefect. One of them is a loved one, he gasses about fifty cats a week. He does a useful job and I do not have to give his coordinates because I do not want to hurt him. It may be different in other departments.
We would do better to attack those who abandon their animals.
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Re: Auxiliary cats from organic farming

Unread Messageby Leo Maximus » 08/01/19, 21:57

A link but it's in Canada:

http://acracq.com/ChambreAGaz.html

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We proceed in the same way in France. The difference lies in the level of hypocrisy. At home, we act as if it did not exist ...
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Leo Maximus wrote:
nico239 wrote:It does not give me any more information on the gassing of cats in mass to manufacture fertilizers in our country ...
You would have links on this activity in France?

Fertilizers are not produced by mass gassing. : Lol:

I am talking about cats ABANDONED. Abandoned cats are first found in shelters where they stay for a while. Those who have not been adopted are euthanized. Since we do not have the means to afford the luxury of a vet officiating by sting then we proceed by mass gassing. Cats are first thrown in a jute bag (like potato bags), the bag is closed by a tie and placed in a metal box. Close the watertight door and open the gas (carbon monoxide bottle Air Liquide). After a few minutes, it's over.
It's economical. The corpses then become a raw material for the industry, like all dead animals.
In my department, the operators are "reliable" people of the Federation of hunters. They are appointed by the prefect. One of them is a loved one, he gasses about fifty cats a week. He does a useful job and I do not have to give his coordinates because I do not want to hurt him. It may be different in other departments.
We would do better to attack those who abandon their animals.


Image abandoned or not it is not what intrigues me and I ask even less its coordinates.

It's just that Mrs. having worked for years in several vet offices, being busy with cat shelters and being in contact with various shelters, with the LPO, we have never heard in France about gassing. cats abandoned and alive in these proportions.

50 cats a week, it's still a lot of work: go around the shelters of the department, km, a pick-up truck, transport, costs and of course lots of people shelters who would know and who would never say anything about the subject

As I also know the guys from the fede hunting corner I will touch them a word at the next galette ...

I have the right to be surprised by facts as serious and ignoble against which I am insulted as much as you think.

I will conduct my investigation and if you can bring testimonys or videos or articles like water to the mill of this investigation it is GLADLY Image
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Re: Auxiliary cats from organic farming

Unread Messageby nico239 » 08/01/19, 21:59

Leo Maximus wrote:A link but it's in Canada:

http://acracq.com/ChambreAGaz.html

Gas chamber for animals.jpg
We proceed in the same way in France. The difference lies in the level of hypocrisy. At home, we act as if it did not exist ...


Yes I know that it exists but in France and in the proportions you describe it puzzles me ... and even more determined to discover it ... : Evil: :!: : Evil: :!:
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