Gravity watering

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Re: Gravity watering




by float » 10/09/23, 18:03

@Izentrop
I saw that you didn't want to use a pump but I have a neighbor who uses a small solar panel plus micro pump (on 12V from memory) and he is happy.
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Re: Gravity watering




by izentrop » 10/09/23, 20:46

float wrote:@Izentrop
I saw that you didn't want to use a pump but I have a neighbor who uses a small solar panel plus micro pump (on 12V from memory) and he is happy.
To water a greenhouse or its balcony? I would like to avoid watering in the middle of a dodger : Wink:

I did a test again this evening... When the pipe is empty, it still takes quite a while to start dripping at the end... I will do a bypass on the pipe to speed up the start.
gegyx wrote:Tomatoes, I water every 2 days and depending. But it's not a success, my crops in clay soil
With a good dose of compost, it makes up for it. With dry toilets and green waste compost that I collect, things have improved a lot.
Finally, even with this construction scheme, despite the pressure, the drippers became clogged, although the suction cremone was covered with 3 layers of filter fabric (?).
For the moment I only have the seal with fine mesh which comes from the water inlet of a washing machine. This is also why I try not to set the drippers too tight (8 to 10 drops/second). Fine mesh also rainwater gutter outlet. We'll see ...
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Re: Gravity watering




by sicetaitsimple » 10/09/23, 21:49

izentrop wrote:I did a test again this evening... When the pipe is empty, it still takes quite a while to start dripping at the end... I will do a bypass on the pipe to speed up the start.


I thought about it when I saw your diagram...Why not close the loop by removing the "plug" and connecting the end of the pipe via a T to the power supply?
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Re: Gravity watering




by gfgh64 » 10/09/23, 21:59

izentrop wrote:
float wrote:@Izentrop
I saw that you didn't want to use a pump but I have a neighbor who uses a small solar panel plus micro pump (on 12V from memory) and he is happy.
To water a greenhouse or its balcony? I would like to avoid watering in the middle of a dodger : Wink:

I did a test again this evening... When the pipe is empty, it still takes quite a while to start dripping at the end... I will do a bypass on the pipe to speed up the start.
gegyx wrote:Tomatoes, I water every 2 days and depending. But it's not a success, my crops in clay soil
With a good dose of compost, it makes up for it.With dry toilets and green waste compost that I collect, things have improved a lot.
Finally, even with this construction scheme, despite the pressure, the drippers became clogged, although the suction cremone was covered with 3 layers of filter fabric (?).
For the moment I only have the seal with fine mesh which comes from the water inlet of a washing machine. This is also why I try not to set the drippers too tight (8 to 10 drops/second). Fine mesh also rainwater gutter outlet. We'll see ...


just to understand, do you use your dry toilet directly mixed with green waste compost?
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Re: Gravity watering




by izentrop » 11/09/23, 00:20

sicetaitsimple wrote:
izentrop wrote:I did a test again this evening... When the pipe is empty, it still takes quite a while to start dripping at the end... I will do a bypass on the pipe to speed up the start.
I thought about it when I saw your diagram...Why not close the loop by removing the "plug" and connecting the end of the pipe via a T to the power supply?
Yes, you're right.

I should point out that the test was in very low gravity: 30 cm, from 50 cm it already goes faster. Nothing stops me from raising my tank.
gfgh64 wrote:just to understand, do you use your dry toilet directly mixed with green waste compost?
In fact my TS compost is 2 years old. TS compost does not heat up enough for good sanitation. For this you need a week of thermophilic composting at 50° minimum (WHO) https://apps.who.int/iris/bitstream/han ... 59_fre.pdf

Since this winter when I made an insulated composter (6 cm of recycled polyurethane) in one year the future compost should be mature. I mix fresh green waste: herbs, kitchen waste, garden waste, my chicken manure... I add urine (separation), so as to raise the temperature (56° measured in winter). ).

Green waste compost is offered to the recycling center. I also add urine, as it is nitrogen deficient and also to keep it moist under a tarpaulin.

For use in the garden, I sieve the two and mix them more or less.

Aesthetically not jojo, I'm going to repaint it.
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Re: Gravity watering




by float » 11/09/23, 07:08

izentrop wrote:
float wrote:@Izentrop
I saw that you didn't want to use a pump but I have a neighbor who uses a small solar panel plus micro pump (on 12V from memory) and he is happy.
To water a greenhouse or its balcony? I would like to avoid watering in the middle of a dodger : Wink:

As you said you wanted to keep it simple and the day, I didn't say everything about its installation. : Mrgreen:
It also has a 12V battery and a programmer.
I haven't looked into it further but everything seems small to me and can be found in a garden center.
The solar panel should be approximately 2 A4 sheets (A3 for purists : Wink: )
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Re: Gravity watering




by izentrop » 11/09/23, 08:44

float wrote:As you said you wanted to keep it simple and the day, I didn't say everything about its installation.
It also has a 12V battery and a programmer.
Yes thank you, interesting, there are 30 m kits, 30 drippers, solar, programmer with battery really cheap, exactly what I needed for my greenhouse : Wink:

To prevent the pipe from emptying between two waterings, have all the drippers raised as here and a maximum of 2 drippers per line = no pressure loss...
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Re: Gravity watering




by Ahmed » 11/09/23, 11:55

For your composter, rather than repainting it, wouldn't it be better to make a wooden cladding?
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Re: Gravity watering




by izentrop » 11/09/23, 12:05

Hello,
Ahmed wrote:For your composter, rather than repainting it, wouldn't it be better to make a wooden cladding?
This is for fields of polyurethane panels that are not protected. I had glued self-adhesive aluminum tape but it didn't hold.

I have some leftover black foundation waterproofing paint in stock which should do the job. : Wink:

The plan in the previous message, the drippers are not adjustable, that's not a bad thing because it often goes wrong and then it is by programming the watering durations that you regulate the quantities of water provided.
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Re: Gravity watering




by sicetaitsimple » 11/09/23, 12:11

I think Ahmed was referring more to the aesthetic aspect of the thing... Which doesn't prevent you from protecting the panels with a waterproof coating.
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