Eat meat, what impact on the planet?

[Moindreffor]

uh, what world do you guys live in is game and fresh, unfrozen game can only be sold in hunting season, that's the law
game rises like any other animal, and it's a bit hypocritical to say that to see a whole dead animal is disgusting, yes, a saddle of rabbit, a chop of mutton, a vacuum-packed steak , it's so far from the animal that you almost forget where it comes from ...

after some buy vegetable steak, so as not to completely cut the cord, we keep the word steak, the shape, the taste of the meat, without the meat, again what hypocrisy ...

[Janic]

after some buy vegetable steak, so as not to completely cut the cord, we keep the word steak, the shape, the taste of the meat, without the meat, again what hypocrisy ...

another one who has not understood anything about the psychological mechanisms of humans.
Many individuals who change their eating habits also do so according to their taste pleasure. The fact of presenting a substitute which does not discourage the consumer too much, allows a simpler and faster passage from one mode to another.
Calling it a steak is also part of this passage which then disappears. As for hypocrisy, it is an attitude widely spread in our societies, but you never are, that goes without saying!

[Moindreffor]

after some buy vegetable steak, so as not to completely cut the cord, we keep the word steak, the shape, the taste of the meat, without the meat, again what hypocrisy ...

another one who has not understood anything about the psychological mechanisms of humans.
Many individuals who change their eating habits also do so according to their taste pleasure. The fact of presenting a substitute which does not discourage the consumer too much, allows a simpler and faster passage from one mode to another.
Calling it a steak is also part of this passage which then disappears. As for hypocrisy, it is an attitude widely spread in our societies, but you never are, that goes without saying!

well yes, it is therefore the producers and the sellers who modify the dietary changes by presenting new products, it is more marketing than a real demand of the consumer

all my vegetarian friends do not buy this kind of products and cook very good dishes without having to go through this kind of commercial scam, because they have made a real approach, a real introspection, and do not follow a new fashion proposed by the food industry to place new products and sell more

eating vegetarian is eating better, and Mac Do's vegan hamburger is the typical symbol of all this scam, vegan or not it's still junk food, putting a vegan label on it doesn't make it more acceptable, but more like fashion

[Janic]

well yes, it is therefore the producers and the sellers who modify the dietary changes by presenting new products, it is more marketing than a real demand of the consumer

It is As well marketing like any prepared product sold commercially. Except that this kind of product is claimed by the same people who buy other prepared products or who think (not everyone is cordon bleu) that a good successful preparation is better than a failure when the product does not. is not usual!

all my vegetarian friends do not buy this kind of products and cook very good dishes without having to go through this kind of commercial scam, because they have made a real approach, a real introspection, and do not follow a new fashion proposed by the food industry to place new products and sell more

Judgment Worthless. It's like comparing home cooking with that of a restaurant, it's not just about the food alone, but it's an opportunity for something else, otherwise.

eating vegetarian means eating better,

not always unfortunately and many of them eat the same shit that they also buy in the supermarket.

and Mac Do's vegan burger is the typical symbol of this whole scam, vegan or not it's still junk food, putting a vegan label on it doesn't make it more acceptable, but more fashionable

There is some truth in your reasoning, but not everything! Many VGR / VGL are by philosophy, by ethics and the quality of the products is not for all that present, no more than McDonald's more or less. (Since the same industrial food is found in supermarkets, other junk food as well.)
In the same way that you should not mix everything between VGR / VGL, vegan even if there are some common points such as not to consume animal flesh.

[Moindreffor]

let's say that between consumer demand or food industry proposals it's a bit like between chicken and egg ...

you would like to believe that people are becoming aware and influencing, because tv is hammering him and i think people are following a fad

what I can grant you is that a minority is indeed becoming aware, but for me it is a silent minority, the real one, the one who took the step and who acts, and on which surfs, the media, the food industry, we find the new good veins ...

there is such inertia that even bad habits die hard, I would like to think like you, but I am not so optimistic or idealistic, and I do not think that the demonization of this or that product or practice is the good approach, opposing people, ideas more often leads only to conflict than to a solution

[Flytox]

New presentation of meat in a Leclerc:

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The complete pheasant at 6 € is not expensive !!

For on this will sensitize some people on their food choices ...

AMHA, this new presentation is just used to save labor on the preparation of the bidoche, to charge for feather or skin / offal etc ... at the price of the bidoche and certainly while abstaining from reduce the price per kilo ....

For the "complete pheasant", they had to make a release recently in the area, we find some on the road who are not even afraid of cars.
You have to honk your horn for them to go and hide in the thickets ...
You have to call on a "good hunter" ...

[izentrop]

it is game and fresh, unfrozen game can only be sold during hunting season, this is the law

It is the hunting season, but in this case it is not game since it comes from Belgian breeding, noted on the label.

Are you allowed to sell game all year round?

YES for mammals authorized to hunt all year round
YES for red partridge, gray partridge, mallard duck, pheasant and wood pigeon mainly
NO for other game birds outside hunting periods

https://www.metro.fr/nos-produits/boucherie/gibier

Otherwise the store denies having offered this type of product, I had put a fessebouc link .... A set-up of antispeciesists ??

The complete pheasant at 6 € is not expensive !!

Do you know a lot of brave people who will bother to pluck and empty?
It might just interest a hunter who doesn't want to come home empty-handed.

[izentrop]

Eating exclusively on plants seems the obvious solution to avoid killing animals. However, plant productions also kill animals, and feeding on ruminants raised on grass would save animal lives. But in the field of ethics, nothing is so simple. https://grainesdemane.fr/faut-il-manger ... s-danimaux

[Janic]

https://www.arte.tv/fr/videos/103028-00 ... s-animaux/

although focused particularly on industrial farming, this concerns non-industrial farming just as much!
at the same time I take this opportunity to point out the absurdity of the speech held above or below:

izmentor

Re: Eating meat, what impact on the planet?
31/12/20, 02:09
Eating exclusively on plants seems the obvious solution to avoid killing animals. However, plant productions also kill animals, and feeding on ruminants raised on grass would save animal lives. But in the field of ethics, nothing is so simple. https://grainesdemane.fr/faut-il-manger ... s-of animals

Bringing everything back to veganism is an absurd position. Indeed many do not know how to distinguish between veganism and veganism, hence this kind of article above.