Thermo Gravitational wheel

[Ahmed]

...if the CO2 were stuck to the ground, we wouldn't ask any questions about it!

[peter]

I know one who is happy that Modo corrected me...lol.
Yes, I didn't talk about convections, and there aren't any everywhere.
The wind speed is in any case not the same at low altitude as at high altitude.
Moreover, very often linked to the movement of natural ozone pockets which come back down.
Ozone under solar influence...
https://www.windy.com/?250h,50.773,-18.968,3

We also omit the icy upper layer which absorbs a large part of the heat, regardless of the content of the heated gases.
And methane being a refrigerant, I don't see where the problem is with farting cows...

[peter]

You probably don't know about Electromagnetic Attraction...for heat transfer.

Place 2 nails next to each other, one heated red hot, the other iced.
The temperature difference forms an EM magnetization.

IR radiation (infrared)
Hot “gives”…cold “sucks”

Solar light polarized by metal oxides is also a form of heat extractor.
Even capable of sucking heat (IR ray) through walls.

Ah, I forgot, water vapor molecules...are the most important greenhouse gas.
But also helps with heat transfer.

And the more artificial waves are induced on the Ionosphere, the more...it becomes transparent to solar rays!
Simple effect of mass oscillations.

In many cases, vibrations and oscillations ACCELERATE the transfer of various radiations.

[plasmanu]

All is said

It looks a lot like Crookes' radiometer.
My hen broke mine. A chicken is stupid
https://youtube.com/shorts/EJxleHqtX0g? ... XqVOm4LmMs

[peter]

Excellent example indeed.

There are also aluminized interior insulation on one side, special for radiators,
once the aluminum is at the same temperature as the IR received, it becomes an IR Reflector.
To return the “heat”.

When a body heats up, it can no longer accept IR radiation of the same energy.
So when a high layer of the atmosphere reaches, for example, 35 degrees, it will send the excess back to its source.

And so in theory, the reality of the greenhouse effect would be false...with CO2 clouds at 35 degrees...
But there is not, up there, the SAME heat as downstairs, and therefore little or NO return at all,
since the DIFFERENCE in temperature does NOT allow ENOUGH IR reflection.

However, since time, with all the publications, NO climatic expert has given the REAL temperature of the greenhouse layer.
The higher you go, the colder it gets... transfer by absorption takes place mainly upwards.

Moreover, a solid body, soil for example, has a much greater thermal inertia than a gas.

[thermogravitational wheel]

The greenhouse effect is quite subtle.
This greenhouse effect is based on the physics of infrared radiation. What I remember is that the radiation which comes directly from the sun is not or barely captured by the CO2 contained in the atmosphere. The fact that solar radiation reflects on the earth changes its spectrum and that can be better captured by CO2.
For more details here is a link that explains it

[peter]

The atmosphere is never static, that’s clear.
Depends on the convections, there are several types, vertical, horizontal (which roll...lol),
diagonally in a vortex (rarer), etc...

But there is never 100% convection over 100% of the ground surface.
There are areas of calm WITHOUT convection, as well as areas of "mixing".

Focusing entirely on convections is a fixation.
IR transfer time and heat by Conduction and convection speed are among the variables,
There are only IR Reflections when there is too much heat accumulated in the molecules, this is valid for all gases
liquids and solids.

[peter]

The ElectroDynamic phenomenon is not mentioned here, which is a shame.

[plasmanu]

Personally I find that under vacuum is more attractive. It's a nicer technical challenge

[peter]

Under a vacuum...
Difficult challenge.

It is certain that by eliminating Variables from the process, it will be simpler and clearer.