Ball lightning!
- plasmanu
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there is a break on a video. about 1 / 50th of a second.
always the samsung.
a single image taken from the video.
it is true that given the 2 millimeters (at the very least) of the cell.
I can neither confirm or deny the presence of a shutter inside.
never having taken one apart.
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- Obamot
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Well, we went from a clear opinion on no shutter on "digital camera"To a laconic"ok there is a shutter", Then after getting Plasmanu's info, a "There is no shutter on a cell phone" (while it is a graphic tablet it seems), and by zapping on all the information already given ... (which ends up irritating ^^)
Finally, after that would you still not want me to respond in detail?
I just gave my feeling based on modest knowledge of more than 30 photos and editing, both digital and traditional, I let you conclude.
Finally, after that would you still not want me to respond in detail?
I just gave my feeling based on modest knowledge of more than 30 photos and editing, both digital and traditional, I let you conclude.
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- plasmanu
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Which,
the one with the church and the window where you can see the lightning
or that of the paused video.
The photo on my server: 9giga of SFR
http://9giga.sfr.fr/n/50-17/share/LNK74874ffc7b9a5cd02/
EDIT:
Nice casimages.com, I didn't know:
http://www.casimages.com/img.php?i=1207 ... 576673.jpg
the one with the church and the window where you can see the lightning
or that of the paused video.
The photo on my server: 9giga of SFR
http://9giga.sfr.fr/n/50-17/share/LNK74874ffc7b9a5cd02/
EDIT:
Nice casimages.com, I didn't know:
http://www.casimages.com/img.php?i=1207 ... 576673.jpg
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- Obamot
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You haven't left any markings attached in the side-car of your file!
So no way to see anything from the shooting data never mind.
However Samsung lets this data appear in general ( ...>) such as ISO sensitivity, speed, aperture, possible exposure compensation, preset white balance, etc.
On the other hand, the size of the image at 100% fully confirms what I said:
1) the upper part of the image is slightly underexposed because there is not yet lightning, which appears - by observing well - only on portion of the lower part (we see it very well now in comparing the facade of what looks like a steeple on the right ... The over-ex portion is clearly predominantly bluish and covers only 1 / 5th of the image, as evidenced by ° Kelvins corresponding to the cold color temperature d 'a lightning).
2) if we now look at the second part at the bottom, there is the 1 / 5th over-ex, followed by a second underexposed area to the bottom, and which begins in a horizontal line passing below the channel of the roof, towards the upper limit of the small windows on the yellow facade (top floor).
It is as if we had the mark of a first curtain at the opening followed by the curtain mark corresponding to the closing ... And between the two, the lightning that prevailed.
I don't see it as a scanning limit of an electronic shutter, on the one hand since in this case, nothing would prevent seeing the continuation of the lightning (while it is clearly interrupted), and in the Another case we would eventually have the typical CMOS scanning trace, but we would only have a separation delimiting two zones, whereas here we have two, for three zones! So I'm tempted to stick with what I said (but that's just my feeling.)
So no way to see anything from the shooting data never mind.
However Samsung lets this data appear in general ( ...>) such as ISO sensitivity, speed, aperture, possible exposure compensation, preset white balance, etc.
On the other hand, the size of the image at 100% fully confirms what I said:
1) the upper part of the image is slightly underexposed because there is not yet lightning, which appears - by observing well - only on portion of the lower part (we see it very well now in comparing the facade of what looks like a steeple on the right ... The over-ex portion is clearly predominantly bluish and covers only 1 / 5th of the image, as evidenced by ° Kelvins corresponding to the cold color temperature d 'a lightning).
2) if we now look at the second part at the bottom, there is the 1 / 5th over-ex, followed by a second underexposed area to the bottom, and which begins in a horizontal line passing below the channel of the roof, towards the upper limit of the small windows on the yellow facade (top floor).
It is as if we had the mark of a first curtain at the opening followed by the curtain mark corresponding to the closing ... And between the two, the lightning that prevailed.
I don't see it as a scanning limit of an electronic shutter, on the one hand since in this case, nothing would prevent seeing the continuation of the lightning (while it is clearly interrupted), and in the Another case we would eventually have the typical CMOS scanning trace, but we would only have a separation delimiting two zones, whereas here we have two, for three zones! So I'm tempted to stick with what I said (but that's just my feeling.)
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- plasmanu
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All that to say that the focal (shutter time) is longer than the flash.
Unless you use the "sport" mode: so fast enough but loss of color.
It will be hard to do better with the means at hand.
The samsung is only 8MP. I do have a 14MP but low end camera.
Unless you use the "sport" mode: so fast enough but loss of color.
It will be hard to do better with the means at hand.
The samsung is only 8MP. I do have a 14MP but low end camera.
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