Counterproductive environmental measures

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by sicetaitsimple » 17/12/23, 10:41

GuyGadeboisLeRetour wrote:[
At the end of the Second World War, France launched a vast nuclear program with the creation of the Atomic Energy Commission (CEA), but, due to lack of resources, it would take time to catch up. During the 1950s, everything accelerated because the country launched a military nuclear program which led it to develop a deterrent force during the following decade. At the same time, construction of the first French nuclear power plants began, intended to produce plutonium and electricity.
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Thus, designed and built at the time when France acquired
nuclear weapons and nuclear submarines, reactors
French for energy are marked by civil-military duality.
The first generation reactors were first of all
optimized for the production of military plutonium; those from
second generation had as their primary objective propulsion
naval. This duality is still present in the current park
composed of REPs close to navy boilers

https://www.refletsdelaphysique.fr/arti ... 860p34.pdf


Yes, so chronologically the nuclear weapon was developed from plutonium produced in French-designed UNGG power plants, and not in PWR power plants, the first examples of which were put into service at the end of the 70s in France.
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by GuyGadeboisTheBack » 17/12/23, 12:39

Yes and therefore, the Marcoule, Chinon, Saint-Laurent-des-Eaux and Bugey power stations produced plutonium and electricity for “a certain time”:
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by sicetaitsimple » 17/12/23, 12:46

Yes, and don't write about REPsAnd whose technology was chosen to manufacture plutonium in order to make France a military nuclear deterrent power, among others, less potentially dangerous"".was an error.
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by GuyGadeboisTheBack » 17/12/23, 12:59

Careless mistake.
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by sicetaitsimple » 17/12/23, 13:25

GuyGadeboisLeRetour wrote:Careless mistake.

It could happen!
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by DrBombay » 17/12/23, 15:20

izentrop wrote:
DrBombay wrote:Will Big Cities DISAPPEAR? And after ? (Guillaume Faburel)
From the first words he talks about demolishing the cities and giving 4000 m² per French...

I didn't go any further because there is much easier to do first... from 16:05 p.m.

Smart solutions are not mutually exclusive.
“4000m² per person” is for doing everything, in intedependence, and not in autonomy.
Everything, including construction lumber.
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by GuyGadeboisTheBack » 17/12/23, 16:00

Go ahead, make "construction timber" over 4000m... : roll:
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by DrBombay » 17/12/23, 18:36

GuyGadeboisLeRetour wrote:Go ahead, make "construction timber" over 4000m... : roll:

It's always a real pleasure to read people who know nothing about the subject (the video) but still have an opinion.

“4000m² per person” is an average, in interdependence with others, and not in pure autonomy.
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by GuyGadeboisTheBack » 17/12/23, 18:43

And seeing as how wonderfully we get along between neighbors, it’s sure to work. When it comes to construction timber, 4000 or 8000m, it doesn't change much... this video is pure fiction. : roll:
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by DrBombay » 17/12/23, 19:19

GuyGadeboisLeRetour wrote:And seeing how wonderfully we get along between as neighbors, it's sure that it will work. When it comes to construction timber, 4000 or 8000m, it doesn't change much... this video is pure fiction. : roll:

Of course, calling your neighbors idiots doesn't help you get along.
Would you be obsolete in your way of thinking and reacting, for the evolution to come?
Doesn't it ultimately suit you to project this video as fiction?
How does this video disturb your comfort?
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