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Re: Resignation of Professor Didier Raoult, supporter of Hydroxychloroquine, from the Covid19 Scientific Council




by Obamot » 19/09/22, 21:10

Did Professor Raoult talk about it?

That's what I said over a year ago : Arrowd:
Obamot wrote: Go and understand how incompetent people (who claim to communicate in the name of “science" s'pa) base their arguments on a political narrative when it comes to facts!

[Izentrop...! blah blah blah]

It's crazy, we can tell them that the mRNA that codes for the spike protein will damage the vascular endothelium, nothing helps! Still new scientific observations prove it, supporting evidence and experiments NOT TO HAVE THEM BY PFIZER-GLAXO, ASTRA-ZENEKA, MODERNA (etc) : Arrowd:

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An article published by the Salk institute states:

According to the article, published on April 30, 2021 in “Traffic Research”, Also shows conclusively that:
COVID-19 is a vascular disease

by demonstrating exactly and without a doubt how the SARS-CoV-2 virus damages and attacks the vascular system at the cellular level. These findings help explain the wide variety of seemingly unrelated complications from COVID-19


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Representative images of control vascular endothelial cells (left) and cells treated with SARS-CoV-2 spike protein (right) show that the Spike protein causes increased fragmentation of mitochondria in vascular cells.

https://www.salk.edu/science/research/c ... -research/


This is what I have been saying here for several months, under the usual taunts. Then always from the same institute : Arrowd:

NEW CORONAVIRUS SPIKE PROTEIN PLAYS AN ADDITIONAL KEY ROLE IN DISEASE
Salk researchers and their collaborators show how the protein damages cells, confirming that COVID-19 is a predominantly vascular disease.

New coronavirus spike protein plays additional key role in disease
Salk researchers and their collaborators show how the protein damages cells, confirming that COVID-19 is a predominantly vascular disease.

LA JOLLA - Scientists have known for some time that the "spike" proteins characteristic of SARS-CoV-2 help the virus infect its host by attaching itself to healthy cells. Today, a major new study shows that the virus spike proteins [...] also play a key role in the disease itself. [...]

- "A lot of people think it's a respiratory disease, but it's actually a vascular disease", explains assistant research professor Uri Manor, who is the study's co-lead author. "This could explain why some people have strokes and why some people have problems in other parts of the body. What these diseases have in common is that they all have a vascular basis. "

Salk researchers collaborated with scientists at the University of California at San Diego to write this article, including lead co-author Jiao Zhang and lead co-author John Shyy.

While the results in themselves are not entirely a surprise, the article provides clear confirmation and a detailed explanation of the mechanism by which the protein damages vascular cells for the first time. There is a growing consensus that SARS-CoV-2 affects the vascular system, but it was not clear exactly how it does it. Likewise, scientists studying other coronaviruses have long suspected that the spike protein helps damage vascular endothelial cells, but this is the first time this process has been documented.

In the new study, the researchers created a "pseudovirus" that was surrounded by the classic SARS-CoV-2 spike protein crown, but which contained no real virus. Exposure to this pseudovirus resulted in damage to the lungs and arteries of an animal model, proving that the spike protein alone is sufficient to cause disease. Tissue samples revealed inflammation of the endothelial cells that line the walls of the pulmonary arteries.

The team then replicated this process in the lab, exposing healthy endothelial cells (which line the arteries) to the spike protein. They showed that the spike protein damaged cells by binding to ACE2. This binding disrupted the molecular signaling of ACE2 to mitochondria (organelles that produce energy for cells), which damaged and fragmented the mitochondria.

Previous studies have shown a similar effect when cells are exposed to the SARS-CoV-2 virus, but this is the first study to show that damage occurs when cells are exposed to S protein alone.

"If we suppress the replication capacity of the virus, it still has a major damaging effect on vascular cells, simply because of its ability to bind to this ACE2 receptor, the S protein receptor, now famous for to COVID, "Manor explains." Further studies with mutant spike proteins will also provide insight into the infectivity and severity of mutant SARS CoV-2 viruses."

The researchers then hope to take a closer look at the mechanism by which the disrupted ACE2 protein damages mitochondria and causes them to change shape.

The other authors of the study are Yuyang Lei and Zu-Yi Yuan from Jiaotong University in Xi'an, China; Cara R. Schiavon, Leonardo Andrade and Gerald S. Shadel de Salk; Ming He, Hui Shen, Yichi Zhang, Yoshitake Cho, Mark Hepokoski, Jason X.-J. Yuan, Atul Malcolm and J.-J. Yuan. J. Yuan, Atul Malhotra, Jin Zhang of University of California San Diego; Lili Chen, Qian Yin, Ting Lei, Hongliang Wang, and Shengpeng Wang from Xi'an Jiatong University Health Sciences Center in Xi'an, China.

This research was supported by the National Institutes of Health, the National Natural Science Foundation of China, the Shaanxi Natural Science Fund, the National Key Research and Development Program, the First Affiliated Hospital of Xi'an Jiaotong University and Xi 'University. an Jiaotong.

https://www.salk.edu/news-release/the-n ... n-illness/
It is not difficult to understand then, that mRNA vaccines in people with already weakened vascular systems, will develop vascular lesions with latent effects - all over the body, whether due to the spike proteins of mutants or those vaccines - which will worsen with age and may lead to all kinds of pathologies or even early death.
Critics of these observations started by saying that injected into the muscle, the mRNA would go no further, only to recognize that the mRNAs would end up in the blood (and would damage the first organ in the circuit to come: as per examples the vessels of the liver (which is extremely serious. A real micro-biological time bomb).

So if you want this forum it's like the myth of Sisyphus, you have to repeat over and over again the same relevant information which is then denied. It's exhausting, and in addition we are banned and treated as parasites. Which after a year cuts off any desire to post here. And this because the forum is administered SOMETIMES very well, but unevenly, sometimes also revealing very disappointing reactions, even suggesting a little stupidity or malice.


Here is part of the riddle solved (which apparently confirms facts and hypotheses)
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Re: Resignation of Professor Didier Raoult, supporter of Hydroxychloroquine, from the Covid19 Scientific Council




by izentrop » 20/09/22, 11:21

Obamot wrote:It's crazy, we can tell them that the mRNA that codes for the spike protein will damage the vascular endothelium, nothing helps! Still new scientific observations demonstrate this with supporting evidence and experiments FAILURE TO HAVE THEM BY PFIZER-GLAXO, ASTRA-ZENEKA, MODERNA (etc) : Arrowd:
So what :!: it is always the dose that makes the poison, again and again demonstrated for the latest DREES stats https://vivien0000-vaccine-stats-app-47 ... itapp.com/
The fools are those who do not understand simple and demonstrated things : roll: : roll: : roll:

PS: rely instead on Hospital stats, critical cases and deaths, for the rest, PCR tests are no longer systematic
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Re: Covid and Didier Raoult (supporter of Hydroxychloroquine): analyzes on the pandemic




by Obamot » 20/09/22, 11:50

: Arrowd: Nah not necessarily (it's been said many times here) : Arrowd:

https://www.lesechos.fr/2013/12/quand-l ... son-332857

I think Izy, who we like, wants to tell us kekchoz? : Cheesy:

My vaccination status is zero mRNA injection.

Yet tested regularly because of my job (it was this morning) never been sick...
Negative test, always.

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That's EBM...!
Is that what you want to tell us? : Mrgreen:
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Re: Resignation of Professor Didier Raoult, supporter of Hydroxychloroquine, from the Covid19 Scientific Council




by Robob » 21/09/22, 18:06

izentrop wrote:
Obamot wrote:It's crazy, we can tell them that the mRNA that codes for the spike protein will damage the vascular endothelium, nothing helps! Still new scientific observations demonstrate this with supporting evidence and experiments FAILURE TO HAVE THEM BY PFIZER-GLAXO, ASTRA-ZENEKA, MODERNA (etc) : Arrowd:
So what :!: it is always the dose that makes the poison, again and again demonstrated for the latest DREES stats https://vivien0000-vaccine-stats-app-47 ... itapp.com/
The fools are those who do not understand simple and demonstrated things : roll: : roll: : roll:

PS: rely instead on Hospital stats, critical cases and deaths, for the rest, PCR tests are no longer systematic


Your graph is worth nothing:
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here the DREES source which allows to find all these figures (the 80+ in August 2022): https://data.drees.solidarites-sante.go ... eader=true

The unvaccinated population is 349 people out of ABOUT 4.2 million 80+. Difficult to make reliable stats with this kind of difference:

The DREES calculates the number of novaxes by difference between the vaccinated persons reported in the VACSI file and ... the number of 80+ valued by INSEE.

From the beginning of 2022 to the end of 2022 pop. estimated to be around 100 to 000 people (compared to 150 novax). This creates a 000-350% margin of error on the estimate of the number of novaxes. To check it: https://www.insee.fr/fr/outil-interacti ... =60,80&c=0

Does the DREES precisely take into account every day vaccinated people who die from any cause and should reduce the 80+ vax population? Nothing about it in their info notes. 650 people die each year, mainly 000+ (compared to 80 novax). Ditto for the 350-year-olds who fall into the category during the year...

The number of DCs in the 80+, used in your graph, from 14 to 28/08, is 301.
But the DREES disaggregates unreconciled cases between the different SIDEP VACSI tartempion databases.
Just by deleting all the decimals of the DCs (therefore only part of the breakdowns), we go to 271 DCs (at least 10% broken down).
Out of the 30 DCs thus broken down out of a population of 4.2 million, 6.67 are broken down into the unvaccinated, population 350?? 000% unknown broken down into 22% novax, thank you DREES.

If the vaccine avoided 1 case out of 3 (your graph) we would not have this evolution of hospi (same for SC and DC):

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As you can see, no drop in hospi in 2022 (or 2021) among the 80+ and explosion among the youngest: thank you for the vaccine.

What should strike you about your favorite charts is what it looks like where the numbers are significant enough to make it harder to cheat. For example on PCR+:

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Compare the "without reminder" with the "with reminder": who are the most affected by the virus?
And ask your friend who distributes these graphs, why he carefully avoids the 0-19? FYI it's the only slice where the novax are representative.
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by VetusLignum » 21/09/22, 22:00

Christophe wrote:This just fell off Dr. Raoult, world initiator in VIVO * of the'promising clinical trial on Plaquenl / Hydroxychloroquine / Chloroquine has just left the Macron scientific council:

* following the publication of the Chinese in VITRO: https://www.econologie.com/coronavirus- ... rier-2020/

EXCLUSIVE Coronavirus: Didier Raoult slams the door of Macron's Scientific Council

The boss of the IHU Méditerranée Infection defied the majority opinion of his peers by opening his establishment to the massive screening of Covid-19 and the hydrochloroquine treatment of "febrile patients". Several hundred Marseillais are still lining up in front of the institute on Tuesday.


The break is this time consummated between Didier Raoult and the government: "I no longer participate in the Scientific Council gathered around Emmanuel Macron" announced this Tuesday morning to "Les Echos" the iconoclastic patron of the IHU Mediterranean Infection, while specifying that he does not resign. Disagreed for weeks with the containment policy which he describes as medieval, he insisted that massive screening resources were needed nationwide to detect suspicious cases, isolate and treat positive patients. As in South Korea: the country reported on Monday the lowest number of new daily cases of contamination with the coronavirus since the end of February and is now fueling hopes of controlling the epidemic.

(...)




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by pedrodelavega » 21/09/22, 22:25

Does that seem believable to you?
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by GuyGadeboisTheBack » 21/09/22, 22:39

pedrodelavega wrote:Does that seem believable to you?

In any case, knowing that Europe has bought it for almost a billion euros, it is far from being impossible. It would even be not only believable but completely "natural" knowing who we are dealing with.
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by Remundo » 21/09/22, 22:41

much more credible than the nonsense of the government.
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