You left in the abstract philosophy which turns in circle in the vacuum !!!
So to come back to the real concrete and not a belief against or for capitalism, against or for progress, about a man increased, trafficked to live longer, that you raised, did you realize that we are already trafficked, selected, spontaneously in the past to live much longer than most of our weight animals, like dogs who live about 10 to 15 years and us about 80 years, about 6 times more !!!
In our past, man has been trafficked by ourselves, without being aware of it, to live longer, a kind of self-selection and therefore the current possibilities of increasing our lifespan are lower than for dogs .
So why do we live much longer than many mammalian animals of our weight?
How did this progress in our prehistoric history happen ???
Debt crisis: austerity, a chance for econology?
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dedeleco wrote:You left in the abstract philosophy which turns in circle in the vacuum !!!
... the theses raised here are by no means from Dede's abstract philosophy!
Laborit's theses, for example, are scientifically validated, if that can reassure you!
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Thank you for his clarifications!
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dedeleco wrote:Laborit was very concrete and real with his human rats, but you left in the unreal empty philosophy !!
Could you please develop?
What is the unreal empty philosophy?
The interpretation of human experience in a social situation is not unreal, the search for an explanation for the current way of life is a very serious matter, the proof is THE taboo subject of our society par excellence.
The society of hyper consumption, crises, destruction of ecosystems, there is a common cause which goes far beyond the traditionally developed framework (which only addresses the consequences).
we are already trafficked, selected, spontaneously in the past to live much longer than most animals of our weight, like dogs who live about 10 to 15 years and us about 80 years, about 6 times more !!!
... the chimpanzee can exceed the 50 years, I do not see the report of a comparison cat and dogs with the man?
So let's stop with the hs and go back to the original subject ...
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Amusing! Christophe had talked about the curve of Laffer about the amount of the tax, but I just noticed that it is in reality Jules Dupuit, economist of 19 rd century that had drawn it first.
Laffer therefore has only the merit (if one can say given its rhetorical character) of having exhumed and popularized it.
In addition to the more than doubtful theoretical aspect, there is the fact that the opposition between public and private goods is hardly relevant.
Laffer therefore has only the merit (if one can say given its rhetorical character) of having exhumed and popularized it.
In addition to the more than doubtful theoretical aspect, there is the fact that the opposition between public and private goods is hardly relevant.
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Do not mix everything up! According to Georges Cuvier, the lifespan of mammals is approximately 5 times the duration of long bone ossification, i.e. for humans between 125 and 150 years. The fact that it does not reach these advanced ages is multifactorial (inheritance, environment, food, physical activity, etc.) our current 80 years are the consequence and even worse for those who die younger.did you realize that we are already trafficked, selected, spontaneously in the past to live a long time than most animals of our weight, like dogs who live about 10 to 15 years and us about 80 years, about 6 times more! !!
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Janic wrote: Do not mix everything up! According to Georges Cuvier, the lifespan of mammals is approximately 5 times the duration of long bone ossification, i.e. for humans between 125 and 150 years. The fact that it does not reach these advanced ages is multifactorial (inheritance, environment, food, physical activity, etc.) our current 80 years are the consequence and even worse for those who die younger.
In "captivity" animals - and man is an animal - live longer.
Living 80-90 years is already a feat, compared to our life expectancy in the wilderness (cro-magnon way).
Otherwise globally we can see by then, men and women who, although living in conditions say "Spartan" live to an advanced age.
The hermits of Mount Wu-dang live easily beyond the age of 90!
Not sure that austerity necessarily leads to an increase in life expectancy, however!
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Janic wrote:Do not mix everything up! According to Georges Cuvier, the lifespan of mammals is approximately 5 times the duration of long bone ossification, i.e. for humans between 125 and 150 years. The fact that it does not reach these advanced ages is multifactorial (inheritance, environment, diet, physical activity, etc.) our current 80 years are the consequence and even worse for those who die younger..did you realize that we are already trafficked, selected, spontaneously in the past to live a long time than most animals of our weight, like dogs who live about 10 to 15 years and us about 80 years, about 6 times more! !!
So janic trains hard, to live longer, than this one, marathon runner at 100, and live more than 123 years, longer than Jeanne Calment !!
Like him at 100 years in good shape for 15 km per day and the marathon (and gender), curry, ginger and tea:
http://www.7sur7.be/7s7/fr/1516/Omnispo ... ideo.dhtml
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