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by Obamot » 16/10/11, 09:30

dedeleco wrote:I looked at this historical analysis of manipulations of reality that were hidden from us when we lived it!!!!


... not better! In fact on the one hand we had the ELF affair, and on the other hand, no one knew what was going on behind the scenes.

... in the states there has been so much "business": from Enron to Black Waters via the Vulture Funds (denounced by Eva Joly and which appear in France Africa) the secret society of "Skull & Bones"Which literally blew power from the American people for decades (both elected Democrats and Republicans have historically been part of it ...), the rest is basically just a farce. The strategy of this domination is supported by different "armed arms" that we see appearing in the "Covert Actions"Whose hidden goal is, in a way, to partially legitimize illegal actions (secret prisons, political assassinations, very strong suspicion of a plot around 9/11 => so many things that are unmentionable), and which are only one caricature of a society that is defined as democratic, but which is basically arbitrary! (Maybe there are worse, still we need to create tools to make it better ...).

Look at the AWESOME list of scandals by president in office, which keeps growing in volume and which undoubtedly reached its peak with the "Bush clan":


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fe ... ted_States

... prominent and respected members of Congress had warned the political team in place, that if it continued like this, it would take hundreds of years for America to regain its international legitimacy! They were not mistaken, see the dollars!

... in recent history, the CIA's financial support for "Arab Spring", The revelations of Human Right Watch which proves what is happening further upstream the collaboration of the Bush administration with Saddam Hussein or even ... Bin Ladden, which would be only a" home made "concocted via a clever tactic instrumentalization, as much as the Taliban still are ... (And so many other things that WikiLeaks revealed to us).

In fact, if 9/11 turns out to be recognized as an "inside job". It would only be the tip of the iceberg!

The current period is a kind of "alarm signal", especially with the movement of the indignant - which not only denounces the excess of the manipulation of the debt of the states by the financial circles, but which is moving towards a tsunami. the generalized bowl of the abuses of power - all this strangely resembles what was happening in the sixties, but bigger and more precise and better organized, since today there is the Internet ... I am not not for chaos, but current leaders would do well to no longer make gross mistakes ... Are they enough "wise" for that? (( : Mrgreen: )

Is it farting everywhere? Ironically, there are hardly any more than the emerging countries "who are doing well" ...
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by dedeleco » 16/10/11, 13:02

Very correct analysis, but I note that scientifically the instinctive human behavior, apart from education, is that of mafia, passing from the family, to the tribe, to the clan, to the mafias, with instinctively the laws of silence very effective by exclusion , war and death of dissidents or the uninitiated.
This primitive savage behavior is so instinctive that it is also found even after education at the highest level (hazing or initiation for example to enter the brotherhood) in forms camouflaged by the vocabulary.

Also, given this instinct, it must be channeled, deviated, more than suppressed.
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by Obamot » 30/01/12, 21:23

To finish with the Pentagon, here is the most relevant comment I have ever had on this subject (apart from the fact that except the one where we see ... nothing ... all the videos on which the real facts could have been established irrefutably, have been confiscated)

charlie mike, pilot, November 9, 2011 at 17:22 pm wrote:Being an airplane pilot for several decades I can confirm several strengths to you:

- The absence of the wings may be justified by the explosion of these during impact. Tanks filled with kerosene which can be brought into contact during an impact with a heat source emanating from reactors, for example.

- On the other hand, even with talent, for a large carrier, it is almost impossible to have such a low angle on this building without first holding the plane around 300 then 200 and 50ft (feet) over at least one good nautical distance without also smash the ground. Except the surrounding relief does not allow it.

- Then we should necessarily distinguish the rudder and part of the fuselage since in the event of an explosion, the structure of the plane due to its very solid architecture causes it to burst and split it into several parts that we do not found on none of the photos with the exception of a small piece of trailing edge of the 4th and whose part disappears in 5th.

- Finally the wingspan of the aircraft is wider than the building itself and the damage should therefore be greater at mid-height, without counting the "pink post": the metal barrier in front of the building remained almost intact .

- For me it is indeed not an airliner, nor an ordinary plane. The CIA may have preferred to let this rumor run for other reasons, meanwhile we cannot say that they were not attacked!


Source: ...>

There is therefore no longer any doubt that the Official Report tells us of hiccups ... : Mrgreen:
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by econololo » 31/01/12, 18:12

Hello,
Attention, on this very "popular" subject on the internet, you have to put your doubts in the right place ...->
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by gegyx » 28/02/12, 22:01

11/XNUMX victims found in a landfill?

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Remains of victims of the September 11, 2001 attacks in the United States ended up in a landfill site, a Pentagon report revealed on Tuesday, citing more "burrs" in a mortuary of the US Air Force.
According to the Department of Defense, remains of victims of the two hijacked airliners that first crashed into the Pentagon building and the second in a Pennsylvania state field were discovered at this site after given to a private company.
The report does not specify the exact location.
During a press briefing at the Pentagon, the general of the reserve cadre John Abizaid indicated that the number of victims of the attacks concerned by this revelation was not known with precision. "I don't know if there is a way to find out," he assured reporters.
The details of this case were revealed by chance in a report on ways to improve the control procedures in force at the mortuary of the base of the US Air Force of Dover after the revelation, in 2011, of irregularities concerning how to deal with the remains of war victims.
The new document describes further irregularities, including the payment in January 2008 of compensation of $ 25.000 to the wife of a "marine" whose personal effects had been inadvertently destroyed.
In 2006, the mortuary accidentally disposed of the remains of victims of a Navy plane crash by mixing them with hospital waste, instead of organizing a mass funeral.
Phil Stewart, Jean-Loup Fiévet for French service
http://tempsreel.nouvelobs.com/topnews/ ... harge.html

Ah! there were real victims present in "the plane of the Pentagon"?

You still have to do it! And to say that all the clues were picked up with a fine comb ...

Above all, do not reveal the place of the dump, as soon as you go to check the bones and the remains of the debris of the "Boeing" ...
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by Obamot » 29/02/12, 12:01

Gegyx wrote:Ah! there were real victims present in "the plane of the Pentagon"?


Well, we had always wondered where those who had boarded had gone!

Here, now ... and now that we have finally found a site where remains of bodies whose DNA profiles would correspond to the list of passengers including - the American army AND / OR special forces AND / OR militias private - would have "got rid" ... The thread of history seems even more sordid than ever.

If the official thesis is false (since it has not stood up to analysis for a long time and does not hold much anymore now ...) and so that families can finally mourn: someone - among G. Bu $ h, D, Chene ¥, D. Rum $ feld and others C. Rice - can he still say:

- in what state are these “remains”? Which should eventually say ...
- under what circumstances did they die?
- possibly when?
- and especially where and why?
- how did all of this REALLY happen (since apparently not at the scene of the attacks, so ...)
- and where are the rest of the remains (.... so the coprs) ...

On the other hand, trust them, America is a great democratic country, they will not fail to have an answer to everything.
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by econololo » 29/02/12, 21:49

Obamot wrote:Well, we had always wondered where those who had boarded had gone!

Right here: Passenger DNA traces
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by gegyx » 01/03/12, 22:35

Bin Laden's body transported to Delaware by the CIA?
According to emails from the American private intelligence company Stratfor, revealed by WikiLeaks since February 27, Osama bin Laden's body was transported by CIA plane to Delaware.
In an exchange of messages between Stratford CEO George Friedman and company vice-president Fred Burton, considered one of the best security experts, we learn that the body of the al-Qaeda leader killed in Pakistan was not immediately submerged, as the official version claims.
In these emails, hacked by Anonymous and henceforth referred to as the "Global Intelligence Files", experts believe that Bin Laden's body was transported to the Armed Forces Institute of Pathology in Bethesda .
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http://tempsreel.nouvelobs.com/monde/20 ... a-cia.html

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They should be careful this time, and not inadvertently mix the remains of the victims with those of the "alleged perpetrator" of the crimes!
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by Obamot » 01/03/12, 23:51

Yes, then it continues .... : Shock: I found the staging of Obama and his cabinet, supposedly filmed watching the scene of the summary execution of bin Laden - even if he was declared as America's worst enemy - as a surreal scene showing a similar contempt for human dignity than what happens in any "attack". And of course I do not intend by that to defend anyone for the criminal acts that he would commit, even if it were "on order". No matter what dogma he claims (or not) elsewhere.

[Edit and subsidiary questions:]

- what will Obama answer to this (if he answers one day) because it was during his presidency that these latest revelations took place ...
- if we admit that it is in good faith (and we must hope that it is) does this mean that the CIA, the special forces and the army are states in the state in America, and escape the will of their President?
- that the briefing before Obama took office was a bit there to scare him ...
- in what seems a long time ago to have become the lying poker of the saga 9/11, and if what reports Reuters is true (something we cannot decently doubt ...) what is the real bin Laden? a) the one who is said to have died even before the invasion of Afghanistan b) the one they summarily executed in Pakistan c) or the other again, attached to the CIA and who has assumed a new identity with a new face once its "mission" accomplished?
- if the real one lands there or Reuters reveals it, who was submerged at sea on the alleged day?
- what about the ethical rules that the quintessential democratic state of America should apply to itself?
- finally if we were silent - by summary execution, and this against all international rules of law and human rights - the one who is said to have been bin Laden, then subtracted "this body so embarrassing" , is it not because it was not bin Laden, and that we wanted to be sure to confuse all tracks ...

In short, even by supporting the now unsustainable official thesis (whether to reassure oneself and / or gain a good conscience to defend one of the references of the established system, or what do I know ...) who can still say that the truth lies in the text of it? No one.

And obviously not "Jersey Girls", women of the 9/11 disappeared, who have never stopped that the truth is established ... If it was so certain that DNA traces of body had indeed been found (especially at the Pentagon), why should they had reason to doubt it to the point of constituting their movement. As for those whose families are said to have been removed from their families (but also found partially or almost completely in a landfill) because they were present in the towers of WTC1-2 at the time of their collapse, they presented characteristic traces of explosion AND NOT MUTILATION BY COLLAPSE ...
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by Obamot » 12/04/12, 13:38

Any news on AL-QUAIDA?

Since revelations via Wikile @ ks and @nonymous - taken up in particular by the Nouvel Obs - and cited above, namely that the body of Ben L @ den was not submerged at sea, but was transported to Delaware by CI @.

Another unexpected fact and which could say a lot about the substance: appeared in the American presidential race: the withdrawal - for dubious reasons - of one of the most prominent candidates, the last to be able to overshadow Mitt Romney ... When we know the meteoric rise in the polls of Rick Santorum despite a late surge, there is still cause for concern about the independence of the "democracy"across the Atlantic. As a reminder, a CNN poll released December 28, 2011 showed Santorum jumping to third place with 16%, just behind Mitt Romney (25%) and Ron Paul (22%) and ahead of Newt Gingrich, who was the first in the previous poll.

Why was this candidate "dangerous"? Because it would have been enough for one of the two “losers” in caucuses to give voting instructions in his favor? The fact remains that on the latest news he was close behind the first on the list.

The question that has been asked for a long time among Ricans: is that we always wonder with them, if there would not be:

- "good candidates"(Republicans or Democrats) those who are" in command "of the $ kull & bone $ - because they are more docile and they would allow "To establish chains of vertical and horizontal influences, which ensures continuity in their plan of domination of politics" as Wikipedia notes ...>

- and others who would "Unwanted" and who should we possibly scare?

This is what some observers suggest according to different sources, since this sudden and very unexpected withdrawal of Rick Santorum (Republican nomination candidate and who potentially, could have a good chance of winning ...). He withdrew, because he suggested:

"This decision was made this weekend with the family for personal reasons." Her last daughter was in the hospital.

What seems to be a message suggesting threats received against relatives, but which cannot be admitted publicly when one is dominated by terror.

I can hardly believe that a candidate who spent millions of dollars (and who raised after the last caucus 1 million dollars in just 24 hours!), Would just withdraw "because his daughter would be at hospital ... ”Although this man has a big heart, there is no doubt that he was extremely combative and solid during the camp, which means that this alibi does not explain everything!

If it's true, it's clever, because the primaries are then "Technically completed" continues this source:
http://amerique.wordpress.com/

This unexpected outcome in the campaign. Leaving a completely free boulevard in front of the best candidate likely to win against Obama (maleficent but annoying?) Since qualified as "leftist republican", Necessarily leads us to question again on certain points:

- where is Obama in his procrastination with the CIA, internal security and the end of the “war on terror” paradigm? Announced but never completely accomplished (Guantanamo, remaining one of the thorns in his foot, by dint of conciliation with the devil ...?)
- the execution filmed and broadcast live at the White House, would it have been a skillful staging to put an end to "the ghost of Bin L @ den", he seems dead already long ago and not executed at Abbottab @d (see the link at the bottom of this post).
- would the special forces then have executed a "double" whose mission was to pretend to be Bin Ladden (some had already noted differences from one video tape to another ...)

And a new survey brings different insights and some answers:

http://www.reopen911.info/11-septembre/ ... -al-qaida/

If it is false, what will the new elected president (or Obama if he is reappointed) do in this thorny issue.
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