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Hello,
Could you please give me some information for my future heating.
I live in the North Seine and Marne (Ile de France) my old house (100 years) plaster and stone corner and side of me there is a lot of gypsum,
Knowing that my house is terraced side south and west overlooking the sidewalk of the main street of my village, so no possibility to isolate it in ext so I isolated in int (my roof 25cm rock wall interior insulation 10cm rock or hemp double glazed window).
Here I have electric heaters for several years and I must absolutely find another way of heating.
I also thought of the stove mass but my house is floor, solar panel but my house is misguided, geothermal land-water but too expensive and the area of ​​my garden will not suffice, the geothermal air- water I understood that was not very effective even in the high range, I also thought about pellet wood but my fireplace is not in front unless you add one more ( the silo takes up a lot of space but if you need to!), wood log ditto at the level of the conduit but I work on Paris and I'm afraid that while I'm not the fire falter, I thought also Marble expensive infrared heater and dependent on electricity, I forget for sure else.
I ask advice from people having the same interests as me, ecology and economy, and being able to give their "expert" opinion without prejudging between all the green energies and which would correspond to my house.
I think I'm a bit too perfectionist and maybe I want butter and pudding.
it is true that in the end I would be the only one to choose but people having studied the tenants and culminating could surely give me an opinion a little more decided than mine.

Hi and welcome,

For starters, I do not understand: the heating walls that you made / foresee are electric or hydraulic walls?

In short, the question is: do you have a hydraulic circuit?

Otherwise as you do not seem to deny the wood, here are 2 complete files:
a) Pellet or pellet firewood: https://www.econologie.com/pourquoi-cho ... lets-bois/
b) Wood heating: https://www.econologie.com/se-chauffer-bois-pourquoi/

ps: you are not so badly oriented for solar since you have sides towards the "almost south" no?

I did 4 years of work in my old house, it cost me an extremely serious traumacranian 3 years to recover and is not finished.
that is to say that my work is still far from being finished and that when I'm going to take care of all the same time I thought the heating as comfortable as possible (eco, eco, comfort ...) and the hydronic wall seemed to me best at the heat.
The bathroom is not yet usable but the heating wall is finished others not.
now if there are other possibilities, I think so much.
I read the information on the pellet that I knew from left more I wonder if in my area (north Seine and marl) wood is a good energy?
I am wondering about the supposed location of my future boiler because I find my hot water pipe to be too far away and therefore loss of heat?
moreover the conduit to walk is in the kitchen I see no other possibility at least if the creation of another leads in the roof of the station and possible.
If not, I have no apriori.

hello: Already with a pellet stove, we have less constraints for the chimney, we can even make an exit as for boilers with suction cup.

Although it does not bother me personally, the granule is a way to automate a wood heating, indeed, it can happen by itself a little as happens the oil in a boiler, or we can fill up to hold easily a day, while with ordinary wood, the fire goes out if there is nobody to garnish it.

It's powerful, the performance is excellent. There is mechanics, and even electronics ...

Well already, you did a lot of insulation, but do not you have cold soil ??? this gives a feeling of discomfort and forces to heat a little more ...

There would also be the CAP AIR / AIR (reversible reversible inverter) which could be quite interesting. Very responsive, it quickly rises the housing temperature, and we can easily cut the heater when you're away all day, at least half-season, and leave quite idle when it's very cold. Hence the possibility of big savings.

And that could be complementary to the pellet stove.

In addition, the installation requires little manpower.

LOGIC12 wrote:There would also be the CAP AIR / AIR (reversible reversible inverter) which could be quite interesting. Very responsive, it quickly rises the housing temperature, and we can easily cut the heater when you're away all day, at least half-season, and leave quite idle when it's very cold. Hence the possibility of big savings.

And that could be complementary to the pellet stove.

In addition, the installation requires little manpower.

We must stop recommending these air / air heat pump salopperies: the performance is bad and they are noisy, there have even been lots of neighborhood conflicts because of the noise ... the neighbors of a friend have installed one: since, the night not possible to sleep open window because one hears purring this salopperie ... and in summer the same for the clim ... since it is the war ... but the neighbors in question can hardly go back because the installation cost them an arm ...

I have the feeling that the air pulsing is not very pleasant in terms of heat since I already have convectors and I'm pretty dissatisfied.
That's why I thought about the radiation but it's true that if it's extra heat why not.
On the other hand according to the images on the internet I have the impression that the pac air / air must cost quite expensive for a supplement?
I have a friend who has an A / C and it makes a lot of noise but maybe for the air / air pac one may be different.

Just for information: an air / air heat pump is neither more nor less a reversible air conditioning (it "pumps" the calories inward, it is a heater; it pumps outward, it is an air conditioning ).

slatsss wrote:On the other hand according to the images on the internet I have the impression that the pac air / air must cost quite expensive for a supplement?

No precisely, the supplement is the only interesting way to use a PAC AIR AIR ... especially not to be equipped exclusively with a PAC air air ...

Read for example: heating-insulation / replacement-de-boiler-fuel for budget-pac-exploding-t4651.html
heating-insulation /

Watch this report: https://www.econologie.com/telechargeme ... ompetence/

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slatsss wrote:I have a friend who has an A / C and it makes a lot of noise but maybe for the air / air pac one may be different.

No it's the same as Did67 said, look too; https://www.econologie.com/telechargeme ... mensonges/

et https://www.econologie.com/pompes-chale ... nvenients/

Agree with the fact that PAC is rather a complement to a main heater.
If more electricity, more heat, the day it happens, we remember it!

The noise level of the air circulator is a function of the chosen device, the brand, the installation with noise canceling or anti resonance.
The larger the air circulator is for power, the less noise because it runs more slowly.
look at the number of decibels and even measure at 1m on a demo device.
Inside it depends on the assembly, in addition to the marks (risk of resonances) and also the personal sensitivity to noise especially for sleeping.

The same problem arises with the wood heating with circulating air from the fireplace (or pellet stove) to the rooms and rooms (in my opinion essential to keep warm). But by adjusting the speed of the circulator and taking it oversized, it reduces the noise to almost nothing (avoiding the resonances mounting).

Pellets are very expensive compared to wood and hedge-sized trash and trees that are free and could go into an improved pellet stove to accept crushed and sun-dried vegetable waste that I see thrown everywhere without using it. energy, for lack of pellet stove adapted to these wastes.
It is an absurdity from north to south of France the amount of wood and vegetable waste full of energy thrown and lost!

There are automatic water boilers capable of burning anything, but they are very expensive and rather high power.

super Christophe the video you proposed.
The idea of ​​meeting an ECD expert seems to me a great idea but which one to choose? he's so much of a scam after the video.
I only understand what Christophe proposes?

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I just had a first contact tel with a salesman hargassner and my talk about chipped wood boiler his looked not bad and he told me that he neither had any problem with for the offseason in DHW and this is even their "specialty".
He says there is no need for any other heating mode?
He did not talk about price yet but said that shredded boilers were much more expensive to buy than a pellet.
Yes dedeleco the idea is more than interesting.

It is an absurdity from north to south of France the amount of wood and vegetable waste full of energy thrown and lost!

but where to find it's lost waste and how are the stoker ???