Aries pump - MADAGASCAR

[FGansoinat]

The ram pump is a energy-saving lift pump apart from the inertia produced by a waterfall. Madagascar, like many suffering countries, would be of great use. Local manufacturing is possible and remains an opportunity for economic development.
You can find the system information on Wikipedia
http://fr.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?search=pompe+b%C3%A9lier&title=Sp%C3%A9cial%3ARecherche
Notice to amateurs, enthusiasts, professionals.

[Christophe]

Hi and welcome here

We have already talked a lot about hydraulic ram pumping, here is a huge subject that talks about it: https://www.econologie.com/forums/belier-hyd ... t5268.html

(almost 500 responses with great achievements)

[FGansoinat]

I place the debate on economic dev following your newsletter today:
" However, econology, in the macro economic sense, could be a great tool to boost growth! You can give some suggestions on this topic."
The problem of developing countries is the impossibility of reaching engineers in order to size their ram. An NGO, a subsidized company, a partnership with the technical college of Diego Suarez and a university or LT in FR or any other solution can be a sustainable development solution ... I am a farmer in the north of mada and internet speed is very weak. Not easy to study the subject ...
On my land, I can cause a fall of 2m over a length of 30m, in a 4l / s channel with retention basin. I want to raise the water 4m. How to size the pump with small means knowing that the delivery rate of 10 liters per hour is sufficient for the needs.
I'm just one of thousands ...
If someone can size it for me, I can promote the system in the north of Madagascar and find local partners and put the university and the LT in the picture. But I have to release a prototype.
Hoping to have avoided the off topic, cordially, François Gansoinat, Société Agricole et Pédagogique.

[fredericponcet]

Do you know Thierry Le Goff? I know he makes handcrafted ram pumps in Madagascar.
He participated in the foundation of the SIDE association (see http://www.education.gov.mg/www/?p=1705).

The easiest way to contact him is to go through Véronique Delancret.

You can tell them that it's from me (Frédéric Poncet).

[Christophe]

Yes the ram fits perfectly with a view to econological development... whether it is here or in developing countries ... you did well to talk about it again, I am just saying that we have already worked out the subject quite a bit!

On my land, I can cause a fall of 2m over a length of 30m, in a 4l / s channel with retention basin. I want to raise the water 4m. How to size the pump with small means knowing that the delivery rate of 10 liters per hour is sufficient for the needs.
I'm just one of thousands ...

With a few pieces of plumbing and pipes, you will be able to do something with 2m of water column! I managed to do it with 30 cm!

There are sizing data and monitoring of achievements right here: https://www.econologie.com/forums/belier-hyd ... t5268.html

Here is the drop table of a hydraulic ram for example.

For 2m of fall, we can see that you can go up water up to 14 m ... but in this case with a low flow ...

And more hydraulic theory here: https://www.econologie.com/theorie-du-be ... -3811.html

You will find plans here: https://www.econologie.com/plans-de-real ... -3808.html

[chatelot16]

does the belier pump need no energy?

wrong!

the belier pump needs the hydraulic energy of a waterfall!

you need a certain flow of water which gives its energy when going down, and this energy allows to go up higher a lower flow

so there must be conditions that would allow a small turbine to operate

the ram is exactly equivalent to a turbine which exploits a waterfall to supply a pump: the advantage of the ram is to be simpler to do the same thing

[fredericponcet]

does the belier pump need no energy?

wrong!

the belier pump needs the hydraulic energy of a waterfall!

That is what the first message said, and no one said the opposite.

[oli 80]

Good evening, here is a project already underway in Madagascar
a certain Paul Lenaerts who makes rams for the stocking
http://www.lunion.presse.fr/article/aut ... -malgaches

there is this reference http://regis.petit2.perso.sfr.fr/belier.htm

[FGansoinat]

But difficult to find your mail ... I will search on facebook and the association mentioned in the article.
Thank you all.

[gegyx]

There is what is needed there:

http://www.pseau.org/outils/organismes/ ... e_id=16469