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Areos-Energie AG VPA-2: solar energy storage by concentration in the ground




by GuyGadeboisTheBack » 30/10/21, 20:40

Coming from Switzerland soon THE solution?
With their "VPA-2", Areos-Energie AG sets new standards in terms of efficiency, cleanliness and profitability in the world of solar energy.
The unique system completely reinvents solar energy and impresses with its compactness and unprecedented multifunctionality.
It is therefore not only the missing element in the energy transition but a sustainable investment with ethically clean returns for institutional and private investors.

The "VPA-2" stands out on all these points from the already known solutions. Instead of just collecting solar energy, this system focuses on a single topic. There, unlike photovoltaics, it is stored as thermal energy and is not converted directly into electric current.
Thanks to the patented storage system, energy can then be stored almost without loss for many months. The system can deliver large amounts of energy 24 hours a day, 24 days a year. The thermal energy produced can be used as electrical energy or for district heating (eg hot water) or cooling (eg cold rooms), for seawater desalination or for several other purposes.


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Thanks to the pooled solar energy, the heat storage heats up to 950 ° C.
There is a basalt stone infill inside the storage rack, which allows a storage capacity of up to 400 kWh / m³.
Due to the enormous surface structure of the heat storage mass (96 m² / m³), ​​the collected heat can be quickly absorbed, but also instantly delivered if necessary.
The patented structure of the heat accumulator allows thermal energy to be stored almost without loss for many months.
Even after six months of unused and stored reserves, almost 90% of the accumulated energy is still available!

https://areosenergie-com.translate.goog ... tr_pto=nui
Basalt is not what is lacking and continues to be produced by volcanic activity. Nuclear power is coughing ... and that's good.

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by izentrop » 30/10/21, 21:01

Concentrated solar thermal storage has been around for a long time ... the downside is that it does not exceed a few ... hours without significant losses.
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by GuyGadeboisTheBack » 30/10/21, 21:14

izentrop wrote:Concentrated solar thermal storage has been around for a long time ... the downside is that it does not exceed a few ... hours without significant losses.

Can't you read, asshole? (This guy is unbelievable ... he picks up NOTHING!)

Even after six months of unused and stored reserves, almost 90% of the accumulated energy is still available!
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by Obamot » 30/10/21, 21:21

He was doing it on purpose!

izentrop wrote:Concentrated solar thermal storage has been around for a long time ... the downside is that it does not exceed a few ... hours without significant losses.
Yes, but until then stored in molten sodium (which explodes and / or ignites on contact with air and / or water ...)
It is therefore a major technological breakthrough, which resolves the problem of grid load, and the question of siting thermodynamic solar power plants, since we will be able to resolve the thorny issue of sunshine and afford the luxury of not only produce when the sun is present! The south of Europe once again becoming perfectly “eligible” for this inexhaustible, safe and waste-free source of energy, unlike nuclear power.

izentrop wrote:Concentrated solar thermal storage has been around for a long time ... the downside is that it does not exceed a few ... hours without significant losses.

How can you dare to say that after an article that has just shown the contrary?
(grilled by Guy ...) : Mrgreen:
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by GuyGadeboisTheBack » 30/10/21, 21:22

Obamot wrote:
izentrop wrote:Concentrated solar thermal storage has been around for a long time ... the downside is that it does not exceed a few ... hours without significant losses.

How can you dare to say that after an article that has just shown the contrary?

Preliminary analyzes carried out following the 2018 eruption show that the average thickness of the lava flows in the LERZ is around 10 to 15 meters. Based on the calculation of the cooling rate, it can be deduced that it could take between 8 months and a year and a half for castings with such a thickness to solidify. Cooling and solidification of castings 20 to 30 meters thick could take between two and a half and six years.

https://claudegrandpeyvolcansetglaciers ... no-hawaii/
Not for nothing that they store heat in basalt ...
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Re: Between dreams and realities in Germany




by Obamot » 30/10/21, 21:41

Ultimately, it is the end of nuclear power for its conventional applications.

However, it is possible that they will accelerate the transition to this method of thermodynamic solar production.
For questions of production costs and dismantling of old nuclear power plants, which will cost more “to extend”

And people now have a good reason to get out of nuclear power, for a more “secure” world.
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by GuyGadeboisTheBack » 30/10/21, 21:46

Obamot wrote:Ultimately, it is the end of nuclear power for its conventional applications

Hopefully we'll get it over with as soon as possible.
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by sicetaitsimple » 30/10/21, 22:20

Obamot wrote:
izentrop wrote:Concentrated solar thermal storage has been around for a long time ... the downside is that it does not exceed a few ... hours without significant losses.
Yes, but until then stored in molten sodium (which explodes and / or ignites on contact with air and / or water ...)
It is therefore a major technological breakthrough, ...


Yes that's it! So find us a single commercial thermodynamic solar power plant in the world whose storage fluid is liquid sodium, to see ...
Major technological breakthrough? No, but are you kidding? Do you really think the two grandpas in the video made up something? Since the time that we seek to store heat, no one would have thought of rocks, volcanic or not?
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by GuyGadeboisTheBack » 30/10/21, 22:25

Poor Kiki "science" who knows everything, understands everything, digests everything (but neither Ahmed, nor sen-no-sen ...) and tackles for free. Nuclear fans, you take pity on your condescension, your displayed contempt for everything that does not fit into your narrow boxes and your certainties. : Evil:

Tuesday, October 4, 2011 is officially inaugurated the Gemasolar plant in Fuentes de Andalucia near Seville in Andalusia (Spain). Based on concentrated solar thermal technology, the plant is the first of commercial size to use molten salts (a mixture of molten potassium nitrate and sodium nitrate) to store energy and thus smooth electricity production over 24 hours.
https://www.actu-environnement.com/ae/n ... 13718.php4

Kiki defecated:
Since the time that we seek to store heat, no one would have thought of rocks, volcanic or not?

You have to believe that no ... it's beautiful simplicity, it's beautiful as basalt.
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by sicetaitsimple » 30/10/21, 22:45

GuyGadeboisLeRetour wrote:Poor Kiki "the science" who knows everything, ....

Tuesday, October 4, 2011 is officially inaugurated the Gemasolar plant in Fuentes de Andalucia near Seville in Andalusia (Spain). Based on concentrated solar thermal technology, the plant is the first of commercial size to use molten salts (a mixture of molten potassium nitrate and sodium nitrate) to store energy and thus smooth electricity production over 24 hours.

https://www.actu-environnement.com/ae/n ... 13718.php4


(a mixture of molten potassium nitrate and sodium nitrate).

Yes, where is the molten sodium?
You normally dirty your food with sodium chloride, but I assure you, there is no chance that it will explode in the presence of air or water.
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