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Ecological thrust in the large municipalities of France




by Christophe » 05/07/20, 12:56

As you know Bordeaux, Strasbourg ... and many other major French cities have moved to the green side of the Force.

I don't think anyone has started a topic yet ...

What will this change for the inhabitants of these metropolises?

More freedom or more restrictions? The mayor of Bordeaux has already made it clear that he would take strong measures, not necessarily popular ...

The media, of course, also surf on this historic vote.

I notably found this article with this video ... so : Cheesy:

https://www.atlantico.fr/decryptage/359 ... l-betbeze-



In terms of substance, remember that the green wave in the Europeans had not, in hindsight, changed much ...
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by GuyGadebois » 05/07/20, 13:03

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by Christophe » 05/07/20, 13:25

The old world has tough skin ... or rather the idiots of the old world ...
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by phil59 » 05/07/20, 13:30

Christophe wrote:The old world has tough skin ... or rather the idiots of the old world ...


I think it's a good summary!
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by phil59 » 05/07/20, 13:31

phil59 wrote:
Christophe wrote:The old world has tough skin ... or rather the idiots of the old world ...


I think it's a good summary!


I did not say that I liked!
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by phil59 » 05/07/20, 13:42

Why do we need an economy? especially at the expense of ecology, not pure and hard ecology, but a reasoned ecology? if we can speak of a reasoned ecology ...

it seems to be impossible ...

But why is it necessary to produce at all costs?

Well, the sub-sous in the pocket of some ....
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by sen-no-sen » 05/07/20, 16:52

Christophe wrote:As you know Bordeaux, Strasbourg ... and many other major French cities have moved to the green side of the Force.


I would not be so positive.
The rise of "greens" in the big cities of the metropolis is essentially a consequence of what we can call the "boboïsation" of city centers.
The staggering increase in prices per square meter quickly drove out the middle classes in favor of a petty bourgeoisie very inclined to defend their quality of life.
Paradoxically, these are the same people who, by their lifestyles, most degrade ecosystems who are inclined to vote green ...
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by GuyGadebois » 05/07/20, 17:49

sen-no-sen wrote:
Christophe wrote:As you know Bordeaux, Strasbourg ... and many other major French cities have moved to the green side of the Force.


I would not be so positive.
The rise of "greens" in the big cities of the metropolis is essentially a consequence of what we can call the "boboïsation" of city centers.
The staggering increase in prices per square meter quickly drove out the middle classes in favor of a petty bourgeoisie very inclined to defend their quality of life.
Paradoxically, these are the same people who, by their lifestyles, most degrade ecosystems who are inclined to vote green ...

Yes finally, there are not enough voting sores to move a city from one edge to the other, it seems to me.
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by sen-no-sen » 05/07/20, 18:50

Almost 58% abstention rate all the same! Given the number of voters and the different cleavages, the trend seems clear enough to me.
Voting locally green is a way to implement a city policy focused on well-being, but this is not incompatible with a policy of funds to guarantee dividends ... : roll:
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by GuyGadebois » 05/07/20, 18:58

sen-no-sen wrote:Almost 58% abstention rate all the same! Given the number of voters and the different cleavages, the trend seems clear enough to me.
Voting locally green is a way to implement a city policy focused on well-being, but this is not incompatible with a policy of funds to guarantee dividends ... : roll:

Yes, to see if one of the categories that voted the least is not that of sores ...
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