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Techniques for protecting stakes in the ground?




by Swiss_Knight » 12/06/20, 22:38

Hello,

I am looking for ideas to protect the part of wooden or bamboo stakes / stakes that I plant in the soil in the vegetable garden to allow them to last longer (each year I can shorten my stakes by the buried length so much they are eaten by the mushrooms).
I was thinking of a form of concrete type mineral plaster. without "junk food" (for example I want to avoid certain metals such as copper).
Does that make sense?
Would you see other interesting things?

Thank you
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by GuyGadebois » 12/06/20, 22:41

Swiss_Knight wrote:Hello,

I am looking for ideas to protect the part of wooden or bamboo stakes / stakes that I plant in the soil in the vegetable garden to allow them to last longer (each year I can shorten my stakes by the buried length so much they are eaten by the mushrooms).
I was thinking of a form of concrete type mineral plaster. without "junk food" (for example I want to avoid certain metals such as copper).
Does that make sense?
Would you see other interesting things?

Thank you

I "painted" them with a mixture of pine tar and rubbing alcohol. I found that it extended their lifespan quite a bit. Afterwards, you can try to harvest black locust (false acacia), it is very resistant and rot-proof.
https://www.forestiere-taure.fr/fiches- ... aux-acacia
When it comes to bamboo, you plant it in a big bin, you stuff it with fertilizer and you change it every year, that's no problem.
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by Ahmed » 12/06/20, 22:52

Not for stakes, but it should also work in this case, I dissolved expanded polystyrene in a solvent and obtained a slightly thick varnish * (depending on the concentration) and vaguely yellowish ... In addition it's super eco-friendly ! : Mrgreen:

* The first layer, I made it more liquid to penetrate the wood fibers.
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by GuyGadebois » 12/06/20, 22:58

Ahmed, you are evil in collusion with the chemical industry! I hate you. : Mrgreen:
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by Ahmed » 13/06/20, 09:30

I agree with you! :P
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by Moindreffor » 13/06/20, 13:50

GuyGadebois wrote:Ahmed, you are evil in collusion with the chemical industry! I hate you. : Mrgreen:

Why? is recycling polystyrene not environmentally friendly?
the solvent is acetone for those interested
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by Ahmed » 13/06/20, 14:16

Yes, it is good to reuse scraps of this material and the note of Guy was just a joke ...
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by Moindreffor » 13/06/20, 14:25

Ahmed wrote:Yes, it is good to reuse scraps of this material and the note of Guy was just a joke ...

my remark was also a little ironic
recycle polystyrene to make PVC it ​​seems to me unless I am mistaken, the ecological side is limited, limited : Mrgreen:

otherwise I buy water stain and for the stakes of my nest boxes I stain on 50 cm the bottom and linseed oil for the rest, linseed oil being an organic product it will also tend to degrade (to be attacked by soil organisms) therefore to be renewed

especially me I remove the stakes from the ground every fall and I don't put them out until the last moment, I keep them away from the rain, but in a humid place to prevent them from cracking, and I buy stakes treated in an oven
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by dede2002 » 13/06/20, 16:32

Moindreffor wrote:...
my remark was also a little ironic
recycle polystyrene to make PVC it ​​seems to me unless I am mistaken, the ecological side is limited, limited : Mrgreen:

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Can we transform PS into PVC?

In Madagascar, it is commonly used to putty to seal roofs, the solvent is gasoline, it sticks hard and it dries very quickly.

Obviously, the greenest thing is not to pack products in PS, the cardboard also goes, and the sagex dumplings that fly away is not great either ...

And polystyrene is widely used in insulation, there is no shortage of falls ...

PS: treated in an oven, what is it with?
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by Did67 » 13/06/20, 17:08

dede2002 wrote:
Can we transform PS into PVC?



So that would surprise me!

Styrene is already a cyclic molecule (a C6 cycle), without chlorine, while vinyl chloride is an alphene (linear hydrocarbon with double bond) with a chlorine atom!

Then, when we heat them, we certainly break some of the long chains made up of these links, but it seems difficult to me, in a pan, to "polymerize" ...
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