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The Universe of a frozen river




by cpqt » 02/08/14, 16:28

According to the bubble universe theory, our universe is only the equivalent of a kind of gas bubble that appeared like many others in a liquid, i.e. in this case a portion of 'a multiverse. A few moments after the Big Bang, the Universe would have known a phase of exponential expansion, inflation. As a whole, the Universe is a huge fractal of expanding bubbles. The Universe, as a whole, has no beginning or end, and its size is infinite because bubbles are constantly created. This is eternal inflation. the bubble universe is in perpetual creation. So here are new photos of gas bubbles trapped in the ice of a river that froze in a single night, the mercury rising from + 10C to -25C in a few hours. Hundreds of multi-bubble bubbles ???? Follow the link below

https://archive.org/details/BubbleMultiverse
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by Obamot » 27/08/14, 16:28

Interesting ... And well done for the idea, but ...

But nothing at all, absolutely nothing to do with the hypothetical fact that "the bubble-universe" would be possibly in perpetual creation. This is still a fantasy, at best a hypothesis! Nor that the photos presented "gas bubbles trapped in the ice" would any relation to said multiverse or the represent scientifically in any way ...

There ANY correlation between this multiverse paradigm and the illustrations in the link, except that it is just a artistic project:
ART PROJECT [...] REPRESENTATION OF THE THEORY OF BUBBLES MULTIVERSE.


So it doesn't have much to do with "Sciences & Technologies", on the other hand I suggested the creation of a section devoted to "Visual arts" (related to the central subjects of the forum, mainly ...):
https://www.econologie.com/forums/post275567.html#275567
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by cpqt » 27/08/14, 18:41

Completely agree with your opinion. But here are two links to recognized scientific journals. The theory of the Bubble Universe is very recent, let's give science time to experiment to accept or refute the concept. Moreover, “the recent detection of the gravitational waves of the Big Bang, announced on March 17, 2014, would strengthen the hypothesis of a multiverse, that is to say of a system composed of a very large number of universes , including ours. A vision defended on March 18, 2014 by the famous Russian cosmologist Andreï Linde, during a conference. ”
http://www.journaldelascience.fr/espace ... ivers-3489

http://www.larecherche.fr/savoirs/entre ... 2006-78651

As for the metaphor between gas bubbles and bubble universes, this is called poetry which science sometimes badly needs. And according to Heisenberg: with each scientific discovery, scientists discover that a poet was already sitting at the top.
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by Obamot » 28/08/14, 14:09

A hypothesis VS a theory is not the same thing. It is as if you are appearing:

1) a criminal case is brought to a conclusion and judged (evidence, material elements, testimonies, cross-checking, converging indices, reconstructions based on scientific evidence and everything else ...)
VS

2)
a simple "on dit"... even if he held to the plane of reasoning ...

Apart from that your idea of ​​putting an artistic expression in perseptcive and this theory, I am 100% for and taker, it's even very beautiful (I forgot to say it ...)
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by sen-no-sen » 01/09/14, 19:16

cpqt wrote:But here are two links to recognized scientific journals. The theory of the Bubble Universe is very recent, let's give science time to experiment to accept or refute the concept.


The theory of the multiverse or - would it be fairer to speak of - the hypothesis of the multiverse, comes under scientific metaphysics ...
Indeed there is no proof which allows to prove (or to contradict) the "existence" of such a multiverse *.
This hypothesis is currently in fashion (although very old philosophically) because cosmology comes up against major challenges (dark energy, dark matter, black holes etc ...) still far from being resolved.
The multiverse hypothesis provides this facility which allows us to explain everything, absolutely everything, and at the same time respond to all of our existential questions ...
The problem is that to postulate the existence of a multiverse amounts to predicting nothing, apart from a good scientific theory is a theory which allows predictions and which is based on facts.

It is for this reason that it is more reasonable to consider the theory of the multiverse as a matter of scientific metaphysics.
To see on the question, a presentation ofAurelien Barrau from the Grenoble Laboratory of Subatomic Physics and Cosmology:
http://www.canal-u.tv/video/cerimes/vivons_nous_dans_un_univers_ou_dans_un_multivers.7994

* There would be several types of Multiverses, scientists count several families such as space multiverses as well as quantum multiverses.
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by cpqt » 18/09/14, 18:52

Any scientific discovery follows a hypothesis. As for quantum metaphysics: Planck established the scientific bases of quanta and quantum mechanics because he was convinced that the equations represented the language of God. Even a metaphysical hypothesis can lead to a first-rate scientific discovery. The theory of the multiverse, far from answering absolutely everything, brings more questions than answers in the same way as the Relativity of Einstein which, of course, follows the departure from an hypothesis of research and work.
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by sen-no-sen » 19/09/14, 13:18

cpqt wrote:Any scientific discovery follows a hypothesis.


We agree on the above!
Of hypothesis one can even speak of intuition ....
The universe being a gigantic fractal one can imagine that the observable part of it is part of an even larger subset, itself placed within an infinite and eternal meta-universe ...


Even a metaphysical hypothesis can lead to a first-rate scientific discovery.


Yes, and this is also the case with the EPR and ER paradox leading to the concept of spatio-temporal non-locality which has called into question, if not killed, the reductionist materialist vision.
However, we must always be careful to make the distinction between acquired knowledge and possible hypothesis.



The multiverse theory, far from answering absolutely everything (...)


If we postulate an infinite and eternal multiverse there appear two points which call science into question:
1) To cross the infinite, it takes an eternity, and to live eternity it takes an infinite time ... which is completely beyond the reach of humanity and science, it is therefore a unverifiable postulate.
2) In an infinite Multiverse, everything ends up arriving an infinite number of times ... absolutely everything! Which amounts to predicting everything and gives answers to all existential questions like: why do we exist,Why is there something rather than nothing etc ...
The answer is extremely simple: everything ends up existing, so we with it!
God himself falls from his heavenly pedestal, because the multiverse happily replaces him (this is the position defended by the Kabbalah et Advaita Vedanta) ...
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