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Coronavirus, who or what and why? What origin?

published: 15/03/20, 13:12
by sen-no-sen
Everything is in the title...
In a crisis situation, it is always necessary to find those responsible and to designate scapegoats. The various conspiracy theses are going well and do not hold water.
As for the media, they provide us with anxiety-provoking information, leaving aside the root causes of this health crisis.
So what do you think are the causes of this crisis and what conclusion can be drawn from it? forum!)

Edit addition Moderation on 11/08/21, absolutely see this 1 hour conference on the origins of the coronavirus at the origin of SARS (you will not lose dozens of hours elsewhere) ... it is also surprising that we called the Sars-cov2 disease COVID which is a generic term meaning coronavirus disease ... Since there had already been 2 other COVID epidemics which are SARS and MERS. Ideas ???..

1 hour conference on the origins and crisis of the SARS Coronavirus:

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SARS coronavirus: the virus that came out of nowhere
Arnaud Fontanet Professor at the National Conservatory of Arts and Crafts and at the Pasteur Institute
Public health (2018-2019) / Pandemics
18 February 2019 17:00 pm 18:00 pm Lectures Amphitheater Maurice Halbwachs - Marcelin Berthelot

SARS, or Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome, left its mark. It was first of all the first major pandemic of the XNUMXst century. Its emergence is due to the crossing of the species barrier by a completely unknown virus whose reservoir is the bat, and which will infect humans through the intermediary of masked palm civets consumed in restaurants in the south-east of China. Thanks to advances in molecular biology, it has been possible to retrace the course of this new virus which conquered the planet in a few weeks. It is still not clear why the outbreak ended after six months. Hopefully we will be able to learn the lessons of this dress rehearsal which foreshadows the next major pandemics.



Video: https://www.college-de-france.fr/video/ ... 190218.mp4
Audio: https://www.college-de-france.fr/audio/ ... 0-a-fr.mp3
Pdf:
UPL7480355239835481487_SARS_Fontanet_cdf.pdf


Stream here: https://www.college-de-france.fr/site/a ... -17h00.htm

Re: Coronavirus, who or what and why?

published: 15/03/20, 13:17
by Christophe

Re: Coronavirus, who or what and why?

published: 15/03/20, 13:26
by Christophe
A more interesting subject would be to wonder about the lasting consequences of this epidemic ... on our societies which were already going into a spin before the crisis ....

In short how the corona can (will?) Permanently change our behaviors and mentalities ... for a better society!

Re: Coronavirus, who or what and why?

published: 15/03/20, 13:27
by GuyGadebois
Christophe wrote:In short how the corona can (will?) Permanently change our behaviors and mentalities ... for a better society!

No hope that humanity will improve because of this pandemic. On the contrary, it already brings out the worst in some. :(
"Contacted, Amazon claims to have removed a million suspicious or misleading ads related to the coronavirus since the start of the epidemic. Obviously on the site, there is still some cleaning to do."
https://www.francetvinfo.fr/sante/malad ... 52173.html

Re: Coronavirus, who or what and why?

published: 15/03/20, 13:40
by Ahmed
The causes are diverse but can be summed up as a desire to destroy the biosphere when we are only in the illusion of mastery of nature. It is normal for forms of rebalancing to be expressed which will be beneficial to non-human living beings against which our proliferation has operated.

Re: Coronavirus, who or what and why?

published: 15/03/20, 13:45
by GuyGadebois
Whose fault is it?
To the "modern" world, to "globalization", to our "way of life", to concentration camps, to the destruction of nature which release germs hitherto confined (virgin forests, permafrost, melting ice), to this way of overexploiting wildlife (eg pangolin) to manufacture ineffective remedies and / or souvenirs for tourists, to mass tourism. In short, this world so beautiful, so modern, so "tech" brings us back to the Middle Ages (not the ecologists, no, no) with its epidemics of the black plague. What a snub!

Re: Coronavirus, who or what and why?

published: 15/03/20, 13:45
by sen-no-sen
Christophe wrote:A more interesting subject would be to wonder about the lasting consequences of this epidemic ... on our societies which were already going into a spin before the crisis ....

In short how the corona can (will?) Permanently change our behaviors and mentalities ... for a better society!


It is important to understand the systemic origins * of this crisis in order to grasp and convey that we live in a delusional world.
The consequences of this crisis is yet another subject, but we bet that one of the flagship measures will be to come to the rescue of the banks and to make the "printing press" turn.





* It is more the hyper-connectivity of our system than the virus that constitutes the real danger, because viruses are part of life on earth.

Re: Coronavirus, who or what and why?

published: 15/03/20, 13:46
by sen-no-sen
Ahmed wrote:The causes are diverse but can be summed up as a desire to destroy the biosphere when we are only in the illusion of mastery of nature. It is normal for forms of rebalancing to be expressed which will be beneficial to non-human living beings against which our proliferation has operated.


It is indeed a thesis that I defend, the COvid19 is part of a rebalancing process ...order ab chaos.

Re: Coronavirus, who or what and why?

published: 15/03/20, 13:50
by GuyGadebois
sen-no-sen wrote:It is indeed a thesis that I defend, the COvid19 is part of a rebalancing process ...order ab chaos.

New-Age theorists predicted at the time that Gaia would react, take revenge on human embezzlement. Ok it was metaphorical and laughable, but still they were right (for the wrong reasons).

Re: Coronavirus, who or what and why?

published: 15/03/20, 13:56
by Christophe
against which our proliferation has operated


Yep ... except that we have to explain how humans can be made responsible for fighting a deadly virus ...

It's just to say that your sentence is oddly worded ... but I understand what you mean in the background ...