Buy used stove or insert. Criteria for choosing?

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Buy used stove or insert. Criteria for choosing?




by JSYS » 07/10/13, 15:30

Hello everybody

I'm looking on lbc for a stove to put in front of the fireplace or an insert to put inside not too expensive but which is better than an open hearth.

Use in a 150m2 country house on weekends 1 hour from Toulouse.

Aesthetics don't matter: performance objective and rapid heating on Friday evening :)

Do you have criteria for sorting the ton of results?

For example, post combustion is never indicated, how do you know?
Insert with fan is "better"?

Thank you!
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by Quito » 07/10/13, 20:20

Hello,

What price are you ready to put because the first criterion.

Personally I had a problem with money last winter and I could not continue to pay the electricity bills in the house where I rent (electric heating of course) so I installed a wood stove and I had little money, leboncoin was not terrible to find a few things because either too old (often ineffective because poorly designed) or too expensive, I ended up buying a super efficient INVICTA, it's the low model price it is well designed but the design is classic and therefore lowers the price.
All cost 520 €.

I do not regret.
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by Ahmed » 07/10/13, 20:43

Not sure if it's easy to find, but an important criterion for a good stove is a small combustion chamber with refractory lining. It only accepts 33 cm logs, but the improved combustion resulting from the high temperature causes your 33 log to heat like a 50 in a conventional stove. It is therefore a significant source of savings on consumption and a reduction in the fumes emitted ...
For the details according to the brands, you must search the manufacturers data on the net.
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by Rabbit » 07/10/13, 23:03

Avoid the insert. Poor efficiency, consumes a max no inertia etc.
Prefer cast iron to sheet metal.

It's best to think about it from March to July. After prices go up
sharply. It is from simple to double with less choice.
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by Christophe » 07/10/13, 23:16

Rabbit wrote:It's best to think about it from March to July. After prices go up
sharply. It is from simple to double with less choice.


Really?

I have never seen this!

Even if obviously promotions are more common outside of the heating period ...

But to double the price, never seen ...

ps: are you talking maybe firewood? I thought stoves ...
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by JSYS » 08/10/13, 09:57

So a small vertical godin is more "efficient" than a bad insert or a scrap stove for an equivalent price (less than 500 euros).

So I forget the colonial godin that we find cheap but which must have a lousy yield.

I haven't seen a price increase, yet I've been watching for a while. There are more choices now because more people are separating from their "old" material

Thank you for your answers.
Come on i'm prospecting :)


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by Quito » 08/10/13, 10:07

here is the model i'm talking about the same operation as the Godin of this format but cheaper

: http: //produits.bricomarche.com/nos-produits/bricolage/chauffage/poele-a-bois-en-fonte-14kw-invicta-alma.html


here with us you find it at 499 € I have it for 2 years is frankly it heats well, the air circulates well in it and the flow management is very good.
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by JSYS » 08/10/13, 11:09

Thank you for the link.

It is in the catalog here at 600 €:
http://catalogues.bricomarche.com/speci ... e-bois.pdf

Indeed for a 12kw I have not found cheaper in cast iron and post combustion surely.

I have the impression that there is no good deal to do in secondhand cheap on a stove. You might as well save a little more and save on wood and comfort.
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by Quito » 08/10/13, 11:11

this is exactly the observations that we had made ...

Good luck :)
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by jonule » 08/10/13, 13:56

jsys wrote:I have the impression that there is no good deal to do in secondhand cheap on a stove. You might as well save a little more and save on wood and comfort.

I remember doing it, but it was in summer, too ?!

but it still exits, an example:
a reed makes 150 € logs of 50cm which lasts 10h (it is written above):
http://www.leboncoin.fr/bricolage/546643509.htm?ca=7_s

otherwise you find plenty of JOTUL stove, proven Swedish manufacturing at affordable prices ...

on this site, everything is indicated to improve a wood stove;
I rather do this:
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with hot water output from the fumes! =)
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