Hello
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https://www.econologie.com/forums/post241891.html#241891
without extending the off topic
to make dioxin you have to burn plastic giving off chlorine by burning
the salt is sodium chloride, but the salt cannot be broken down into heat, so for a fire at normal temperature the salt will remain in the ash, along with the other mineral salts which are not broken down either
be careful in chemistry nothing is ever 100% true: it is possible to produce hydrochloric acid by heating a mixture of salt and sand (hence its former name of spirit of salt): so it will be possible to find traces of dioxin: with the current means of analysis when we search we always find a little!
but between finding traces, and having a real pollution there is a difference
the production of chlorine with salt and silica is done only at very high temperature therefore with a fire strong enough to destroy any dioxin
the dioxin production would be done in a fire not hot enough ... so not hot enough either to make chlorine with salt and silica
alas i don't have a precise figure: so don't bother to find it
Burning wood and salt does not make dioxin
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I must then find the thesis of studies of Irish diseases having burned all their lives with peat by the sea full of salt, and therefore having breathed dioxin, which even in traces is very harmful, long term !!
In the flames the salt has a sodium color separated from the chlorine, even if in small quantity, capable of making chlorine compounds of all kinds, with the molecules of wood?
If we did a lot of dioxin, then we would die all around the fires quickly, which is not the case, in the cities by the sea !!
So okay, not gigantic, but quite a few times more dioxin, compared to what gives wood without burnt salt.
In the flames the salt has a sodium color separated from the chlorine, even if in small quantity, capable of making chlorine compounds of all kinds, with the molecules of wood?
If we did a lot of dioxin, then we would die all around the fires quickly, which is not the case, in the cities by the sea !!
So okay, not gigantic, but quite a few times more dioxin, compared to what gives wood without burnt salt.
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do not mix everything: peat is not wood
wood has little reason to retain salt, even if it has soaked in seawater
wood does not contain sand
wood burns easily at a sufficient temperature to decompose dioxin completely
so the production of dioxin with wood that has seen sea water must be very rare
peat is a sponge which can retain more salt, which can contain sand, which burns at low temperature ... so there is more risk
wood has little reason to retain salt, even if it has soaked in seawater
wood does not contain sand
wood burns easily at a sufficient temperature to decompose dioxin completely
so the production of dioxin with wood that has seen sea water must be very rare
peat is a sponge which can retain more salt, which can contain sand, which burns at low temperature ... so there is more risk
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Well I don't care paske at home we have no salt water, and more chui in altitude, so there is only good wood that burns well.
I prout on the tramps that pick up rotten wood in the water and that piss us off to burn it in pep incinerators ...
N / A.
(so how does it happen to be able to discuss this?)
I prout on the tramps that pick up rotten wood in the water and that piss us off to burn it in pep incinerators ...
N / A.
(so how does it happen to be able to discuss this?)
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Re: burning wood and salt does not make dioxin
lol, roy1361 thank you, i laughed a lot. Fortunately there are some who follow ...
Poor Chatelot who does not see the smiley and does not know the second degree:
https://www.econologie.com/forums/post235613.html#235613
https://www.econologie.com/forums/post217420.html#217420
https://www.econologie.com/forums/post180698.html#180698
https://www.econologie.com/forums/post156153.html#156153
https://www.econologie.com/forums/post218759.html#218759
Chatelot you know, I wanted to tell you, ... oooh and then no.
chatelot16 wrote:Hello
I open this topic to answer that
Poor Chatelot who does not see the smiley and does not know the second degree:
dedeleco wrote:Much worse, in the 83, almost all have collected the gratis woods deposited on the beaches, very salted, to burn them on these beaches or in their house, which is full of dioxins that we all breathe and eat once deposited in the earth, for years
https://www.econologie.com/forums/post235613.html#235613
dedeleco wrote:[...] You are as clogged as the average Frenchman who collected lots of free wood from the last storm on a beach by the sea yesterday and who, when I explained to him that by burning this solid wood at home sea salt with chlorine to make dioxin, it was flooded with dioxin he, his children and all the neighborhood, cursed at me, denied [...]
https://www.econologie.com/forums/post217420.html#217420
dedeleco wrote:(apart from slight evaporation) is very harmful, because you make dioxins and other pollutions!
Burn wood leaving seawater full of salt (NACl) with this chlorine made of dioxin also and other pollution too !!
https://www.econologie.com/forums/post180698.html#180698
dedeleco wrote:The remark on dioxins is important: you should never burn wood that has soaked in seawater, otherwise astronomical dioxin levels! By the sea on this subject beware of your neighbors who are dioxin !!!
https://www.econologie.com/forums/post156153.html#156153
dedeleco wrote:[...] observed result: [b] we are more resistant to dioxins and PCBs than a lot of animals [...]
https://www.econologie.com/forums/post218759.html#218759
Chatelot you know, I wanted to tell you, ... oooh and then no.
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Re: burning wood and salt does not make dioxin
lol, roy1361 thank you, i laughed a lot. Fortunately there are some who follow ...
Poor Chatelot, who does not see the smileys, the second degree, shoots himself in the foot, and in that of his "protégé", by which he is put back in place ahahahaah
=> pathetic, and very hilarious! I did not expect it, am collapsed laughing under the table!
...
https://www.econologie.com/forums/post235613.html#235613
https://www.econologie.com/forums/post217420.html#217420
https://www.econologie.com/forums/post180698.html#180698
https://www.econologie.com/forums/post156153.html#156153
https://www.econologie.com/forums/post218759.html#218759
I stop there because there are several pages hihhihihihihihihihihihihihi
Chatelot you know, I wanted to tell you, ... oooh and then no.
chatelot16 wrote:Hello
I open this topic to answer that
Poor Chatelot, who does not see the smileys, the second degree, shoots himself in the foot, and in that of his "protégé", by which he is put back in place ahahahaah
=> pathetic, and very hilarious! I did not expect it, am collapsed laughing under the table!
...
dedeleco wrote:Much worse, in the 83, almost all have collected the gratis woods deposited on the beaches, very salted, to burn them on these beaches or in their house, which is full of dioxins that we all breathe and eat once deposited in the earth, for years
https://www.econologie.com/forums/post235613.html#235613
dedeleco wrote:[...] You are as clogged as the average Frenchman who collected lots of free wood from the last storm on a beach by the sea yesterday and who, when I explained to him that by burning this solid wood at home sea salt with chlorine to make dioxin, it was flooded with dioxin he, his children and all the neighborhood, cursed at me, denied [...]
https://www.econologie.com/forums/post217420.html#217420
dedeleco wrote:(apart from slight evaporation) is very harmful, because you make dioxins and other pollutions!
Burn wood leaving seawater full of salt (NACl) with this chlorine made of dioxin also and other pollution too !!
https://www.econologie.com/forums/post180698.html#180698
dedeleco wrote:The remark on dioxins is important: you should never burn wood that has soaked in seawater, otherwise astronomical dioxin levels! By the sea on this subject beware of your neighbors who are dioxin !!!
https://www.econologie.com/forums/post156153.html#156153
dedeleco wrote:[...] observed result: [b] we are more resistant to dioxins and PCBs than a lot of animals [...]
https://www.econologie.com/forums/post218759.html#218759
I stop there because there are several pages hihhihihihihihihihihihihihi
Chatelot you know, I wanted to tell you, ... oooh and then no.
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don't worry when i burn wood it heats more than 2 degree
I think that this story of salt which makes dioxin is an absurdity, but that it was useless to encourage the retropenetration of Drosophila on the subject of the price of pelet
make an inventory of post or dedeleco denounces this danger is not used for much because I do not remember having read the same thing from another source
therefore await the response of those who know
I think that this story of salt which makes dioxin is an absurdity, but that it was useless to encourage the retropenetration of Drosophila on the subject of the price of pelet
make an inventory of post or dedeleco denounces this danger is not used for much because I do not remember having read the same thing from another source
therefore await the response of those who know
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