Insulating cladding: how to make window openings?

[chuppy]

Hello,
I would like to insulate the back of the house with an effective durable and cheap insulation ...
the surface is approximately 100m2 including 7 windows and a remote kitchens on 2 floors.
I first thought of patinated copper sheets 1 * 2m but saw the cutouts it will not give a terrible aesthetic result.
I think now slates on lattis, the lattice would be fixed on slats they even fixed by long pegs through extruded polystyrene (or pu) + -15 cm in the cemented facade this way to fix you it looks good? there is the problem of the compression of the insulation and its behavior in time ..

My main question is the insulation of the windows. The cover can be done with copper or zinc, but how to fix, clip someone would it have a detailed diagram?
to bend the sheet and make staples I must be able to get out by buying a folder but what would be the detail of the covers in all directions? (upper edge, lower side ...) and the connection with the chassis to make the joint after ....
How to support the hood and fix it: to pierce it I guess ...
Then to be able to work later on the cladding it would undoubtedly be necessary to place anchor points, would someone have some schematics to integrate in the slates?
Any other ideas than slates for siding?
Chuppy

[antoinet111]

There is a material, almost free, and the most insulating of the market.

GREB technique, straw insulation against the walls.

source of inspiration : http://emmanuel30.skyrock.com/

http://www.google.fr/search?q=paille+gr ... =firefox-a


this is what I found the best value for money. The top.

[dedeleco]

Hello,
I would like to insulate the back of the house with an effective durable and cheap insulation ...
the surface is approximately 100m2 including 7 windows and a remote kitchens on 2 floors.
I first thought of patinated copper sheets 1 * 2m but saw the cutouts it will not give a terrible aesthetic result.

Copper is the opposite of insulation, it is the best conductor of heat, 7000 times more than still air in the mesh or something else !!!!

I think now slates on lattis, the lattice would be fixed on slats they even fixed by long pegs through extruded polystyrene (or pu) + -15 cm in the cemented facade this way to fix you it looks good? there is the problem of the compression of the insulation and its behavior in time ..

My main question is the insulation of the windows. The cover can be done with copper or zinc, but how to fix, clip someone would it have a detailed diagram?
to bend the sheet and make staples I must be able to get out by buying a folder but what would be the detail of the covers in all directions? (upper edge, lower side ...) and the connection with the chassis to make the joint after ....
How to support the hood and fix it: to pierce it I guess ...
Then to be able to work later on the cladding it would undoubtedly be necessary to place anchor points, would someone have some schematics to integrate in the slates?
Any other ideas than slates for siding?
Chuppy

Watch the work of the roofers pros with zinc, who pose with wide overlap with slope !!

More it is a complete training pro, thorough, without having it, will give monumental errors taking away any value to your home, all being redone !!!!

[Obamot]

+1

And for the type of insulation: Arf ... It all depends on the applications .... The implementation requires a lot of care with the straw (otherwise coef very bad). From this point of view, cellulose wadding is top and much safer, amha!

[chuppy]

There is a material, almost free, and the most insulating of the market.

GREB technique, straw insulation against the walls.

source of inspiration : http://emmanuel30.skyrock.com/

http://www.google.fr/search?q=paille+gr ... =firefox-a


this is what I found the best value for money. The top.

I am amazed !
just that I already have a negative primer on the coatings on insulators rigid and fixed ... then the straw mmm in addition I have 7 windows and angles on the facade (row house) for skirmishes it will not be very easy .... would have to dare ... then we must deport the cornice and the roof of 30cm the straw is less insulating than the xps I guess ... after reading I see that he had problems sealing. .the wet straw it must not laugh and then there are parasites that can feed on it I guess ... the rear facade is 14m high it will take the weight of the straw when I go to put the scaffolding must be attached to the facade in all the thick olutions must find a good solution

[antoinet111]

take the prejudices out of your head, I told you it's an illustration.

piles of houses are built completely like that, facade insulation is only an extrapolation of the technique.

here is http://www.greb.ca/GREB/La_technique_du_GREB.html
it is to broadcast and reproduce at home !!!!

like me in some time.

[chuppy]

Hello,
I would like to insulate the back of the house with an effective durable and cheap insulation ...
the surface is approximately 100m2 including 7 windows and a remote kitchens on 2 floors.
I first thought of patinated copper sheets 1 * 2m but saw the cutouts it will not give a terrible aesthetic result.

Copper is the opposite of isolaant, it is the best conductor of heat, 7000 times more than still air in the mesh or something else !!!!

I think now slates on lattis, the lattice would be fixed on slats they even fixed by long pegs through extruded polystyrene (or pu) + -15 cm in the cemented facade this way to fix you it looks good? there is the problem of the compression of the insulation and its behavior in time ..

My main question is the insulation of the windows. The cover can be done with copper or zinc, but how to fix, clip someone would it have a detailed diagram?
to bend the sheet and make staples I must be able to get out by buying a folder but what would be the detail of the covers in all directions? (upper edge, lower side ...) and the connection with the chassis to make the joint after ....
How to support the hood and fix it: to pierce it I guess ...
Then to be able to work later on the cladding it would undoubtedly be necessary to place anchor points, would someone have some schematics to integrate in the slates?
Any other ideas than slates for siding?
Chuppy

Watch the work of the roofers pros with zinc, who pose with wide overlap with slope !!

More it is a complete training pro, thorough, without having it, will give monumental errors taking away any value to your home, all being redone !!!!

yes it's true the metal leads but it is quite easily workable and can potentially be quick to pose as a blanket above the insulation.
yes roofer is a job, but I take care of an average site of 3mi € where everything that the roofer does has to be started over, often, without modesty, I do better than a "pro", but it can take time and I like to learn .... the mistakes can be painful ... just see the first apartment that I renovated inverted heating, leaking velux cementing cracked .... since a certain way has been accomplished I would need a reference book on zinc work especially for window bays

[dedeleco]

Minimum of the minumum to know:
http://fr.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?tit ... &section=5
to find your bearings a little, (every word is essential).
PVC more insulating.
Everything depends on the windows chosen, then see the manufacturer's recommendations to follow, its courses too, to avoid thermal bridges, which are very easy to create, as on all houses a little old and even almost new, given the BBC standard that changes everything, and so you have to see the very recent books on BBC.

See also the materials merchants for pros who give advice from manufacturers.
A very authorized opinion to potash with great care but already old:
http://www.cstb.fr/pdf/cpt/CPT_3521.PDF
full of free implementation advice:

Hardware and cladding tips:
http://www.scb-exteriorsdesign.com/uplo ... 052008.pdf

http://mayar.pagesperso-orange.fr/barda ... rdage.html

http://www.bois.com/professionnels/moa- ... s-reflexes

Concrete;
http://autoconstruction.mob.bbc.35.over-blog.com/

http://notremaisonenboisdansleshautesal ... g/bardage/
http://www.deceuninck.fr/fr/bardages-sous-toiture.aspx
http://www.deceuninck.fr/fr/bardages-sous-toiture.aspx
Safety standards to follow:
http://www.vertical-mail.com/sololne110 ... _IT249.pdf

http://www.red-cedar.org/cedar-products ... erview.htm
Tips
http://contenus-en-ligne.editionsdumoni ... OCext1.pdf
http://www.banque-pdf.com/fr_pose-fenet ... erres.html
https://docs.google.com/viewer?embedded ... LaPose.pdf

http://produits.batiactu.com/recherche- ... +fen%EAtre
http://produits.batiactu.com/produits/r ... s-4024.php

http://www.vmzinc.fr/ressources/pdf/doc ... mz-pae.pdf

etc.....

Cladding in solid copper and even zinc, are no longer fashionable, too expensive given the explosion of copper and zinc, or very BBC!

We even risk getting robbed at home !!
As for the copper cables of the SNCF !!!

[Obamot]

Antoinet111:

- I think that Chuppy's remarks are entirely justified!
- at the same time I understand your point of view of almost free material very well!

- but I am not especially for straw, because it is difficult to implement and not as "stable" as cellulose wadding treated with boron salt ...

- nevertheless, applied with the greatest care, by professionals with experience, and who would guarantee the result (for example putting the house "under pressure" in passive house type insulation ...) why not! But I don't know any!

- then you have to see the cost of the work compared to the material => if you have to start over a few years later, you have to count it in the cost in mo and not only in the cost of free material.

- I could see this material enclosed in a substrate that would ensure the waterproofing ... In the 60s, they put it in the plasterboard, when we have to repair such a partition today, it has aged very badly while protected inside the wall ... So I am not for, unless I see achievements that prove me otherwise!

On the other hand I am possibly for very cheap houses, built in straw as wall partition (facade). Yes, because the costs and speed of implementation are unbeatable.

We must first of all find out from those who have an experiment with certified and controlled results and how did they solve the technical issues, including tightness and mold problems!

In the meantime ... we must not hide the fact that it still has many unknowns.

[chuppy]

Thank you Dedeleco!
I have something to read! I have already started to respond from the site vmzinc .... I potash all that and come back here!