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by Lietseu » 27/04/09, 23:51

Well you cut the ad of the gentleman who has cleverly chosen a pseudo, revealing ... and presto! cut the thread of this story ....
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by Christophe » 27/04/09, 23:58

Oh yes... :| :? :frown:
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by I Citro » 28/04/09, 00:26

:?: Uh ... not understood the "revealing pseudo". :| :? :frown:
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by Christophe » 28/04/09, 00:30

Me neither surely the 666 ... 6?
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by I Citro » 28/04/09, 00:40

Christophe wrote:Neither do I ...

: Lol: It reassures me. :?
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by Kiko6666 » 28/04/09, 07:47

Hello everybody

I see that my request causes very contrasting reactions, so I take my pen to provide some clarification.

First of all I think that I must present to you in a few words our company, we were created in June 2008 around a pool of French investors with the objective of manufacturing, importing and distributing LED sources in Europe, we are currently present in Germany, France (11 people) and Belgium and very soon in the Netherlands and England. Our R&D offices are located in Shanghai and house 40 people, our HomeLights Manufacturing factory is located in Shenzen (south of China) ... this to respond to the post concerning the fact that we are only "importers" , by the way, unless you want to buy a TGV or a Vuitton bag, unfortunately we are all forced to import.

Regarding our approach, it has nothing of pure commercialism, we are a young reactive company and really want to get consumer opinions about our products but also their vision of LED lighting, and that for a very simple purpose improve our offer and adapt it to the needs of consumers ... with the objective of growing our society.

Regarding the counter on our website, and the remark of one of the speakers, this is exactly the type of information that is useful for us to modify our approach, provided that the objection is constructed and argued. Note that our website, will be completely redesigned in the coming 5 weeks.

How did we imagine a possible collaboration with our active consos:
1- We sample them so that they install in real conditions our products, so we will collect their opinions.
2- We give them our public sale price to understand if they are acceptable or not
3- We provide preview of our prototypes and expect constructive criticism
4- We meet them once a quarter to exchange our views on LED.

I hope I have been clear, if however the administrator on site believes that these different messages are too commercial, he is master at home and just blow the post.

I remain at your disposal info'at'luminetsens.fr if you want more information.

Sincerely,
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by I Citro » 28/04/09, 08:46

: Arrow: That's it, now it's clear for everyone. 8)

I would add, and that was one of my remarks; LEDs do not light up like incandescent bulbs, nor as compact fluorescents, it is necessary to rethink their shape and their connectivity.

Again, the market and the manufacturers have spawned new products telling us "they are replacing the old ones".
:? : Evil:

Well no. : Evil:

1 / LEDs have performance, longevity that no longer require to connect them via conventional sockets.

2 / The shape and size of LEDs open up new horizons when they are integrated into luminaires.

3 / The directionality of the LEDs, requires to arrange them innovatively and compactly if one wishes to obtain a diffusion of the light comparable to the technologies incadescentes and fluocompactes ...

So there are great prospects ...
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by elephant » 28/04/09, 09:47

Certainly, but I think it's high time to impose a new standard of advertising the power that would

the lumen / watt (actually consumed) at 1 m of the source

and a spectrum quality index (I must admit that notable progress has been made in these last 2 years)

when I say really consumed, I mean bulb + possible transfo : Mrgreen:
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by Kiko6666 » 28/04/09, 11:49

Thank you for your answers, this is exactly the type of debate we want to have with consumers, because the most difficult to implement is to offer adapted products while staying in affordable prices ...

The fact that the majority of LED offers today are focused on standard shapes is that we have to adapt to an existing lighting fixture and the vast majority of consumers do not want to replace them. There are actually two types of market for LED, the replacement (our main axis of development) and that of the lighting, which consists in selling the sources and the luminaire in the same package.

Regarding the new standards of display of light output, a nice European text will clarify this in September 2010, indeed it will be about lumen and efficiency (lumen / watt).
I bounce on this remark because one of our current concern is to find a mark indicating the light power available at 2 meter, but that is understandable by the greatest number, or the utility of recruiting conso-active .

Looking forward to the first volunteers ...
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