A patent is not a proof of operation

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A patent is not a proof of operation




by comode » 03/09/08, 21:50

Always to cut short a certain number of ideas that are false, we also know that a patent is not a proof of the validity of not more than it allows theory to certify that there a working prototype ...

Stanley Meyer's patents are a perfect example of patents for things not walking ...

The first reactions that I expect (from experience) from those for whom it is all a fashion that collapses, is that one says to me "I inform you that one can patent only things which work. .. whether they are theory or prototypes, and yes! "...

Except that "and no!"

I present patent that allows to teleport humans through a wormhole:

Abstract
A pulsed gravitational wave wormhole generator system teleports That has Human Being through hyperspace from one location to Reviews another.

Application number: 10 / 953,212
Publication number: US 2006 / 0071122 A1
Filing Date: Sep 29, 2004
Inventor: John Quincy St. Clair

US Classification
244062000


concretely, a patent is a legal element, validated by lawyers often not screwed to find the most on a pile (yes, I know, einstein worked there, I said "often"). This is by no means scientific proof, and no scientific evidence is required to file a patent.

In the same way that this patent never worked (though the prototype described therein), car Stanley Meyer has never worked in the water ...

When talking about patent, know that it is just a legal protection! it has no scientific value.
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by chatelot16 » 03/09/08, 22:12

enteierement of acord: the principle of the patent, I described the trick to prove that I am the inventor to have the manufacturing monopoly tanpis for one that is quite bete to claim a monopoly of making something that do not work

I think even the INPI in France and other patent agencies in other countries earn much money with the patent that do not work

ia real discussion I had with a patent advisor of the INPI: I have a trick patent: I wanted to see the existing patent hoping to find information to write mine: Comment of the agent inpi the majority of patent worthless and does not take model above: the only solution is to pay a specialist at full price ...

Another type of patent: and my name is in 2 patent these: big society may need to file patent just to prove you are a researcher looking and patented the thing without any interest for not giving good competitor information: damage to the curious who analyze ca believing that it is serious ...

patent walked 1850 has a good invention or age rapidly enriched its inventor: Patent system today does not work is useless, and has reinvented

will patent the new patent system ????
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by Christophe » 03/09/08, 22:14

chatelot16 wrote:patent walked 1850 has a good invention or age rapidly enriched its inventor: Patent system today does not work is useless, and has reinvented

will patent the new patent system ????


Enough said I think ...
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by Lietseu » 03/09/08, 22:24

Christophe wrote:
chatelot16 wrote:patent walked 1850 has a good invention or age rapidly enriched its inventor: Patent system today does not work is useless, and has reinvented

will patent the new patent system ????


Enough said I think ...


I agree and thank for this development!

thanks guys :P
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by Lietseu » 03/09/08, 23:49

You think they have filed a patent?

:P http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4qjZocje0c :P

then we begin to say that wind blah ...


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by Gregconstruct » 04/09/08, 09:18

Patents are only concepts.
Take the example of the smart card, you see this little piece of plastic that should not be left in the hands of a woman unattended ...

Who filed patent just had an idea. To give birth to his project, he had to call the engineers who developed it.
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by Christophe » 04/09/08, 10:18

Lietseu: your video is the blank ... sorry.

Greg: no patents are NOT concepts. You cannot patent a concept or an idea. There has to be a technical and "innovative" aspect. I put "" to innovative because it is widely discussed.

Warning to France every patent that meet these criteria are accepted 2. Do not think that the INPI will refuse a patent because it looks like another (unless it's copied / pasted and again). It will tell simplment similarities (more or less obvious: X, Y, A + ... else I remember) with other patents the prior report.

As proof, the water doping has been re-dubbed as is many times by small malignant ... it will not help them at all.

Those who can block you on détentenur other valid patents: they still have to find your patent!

In the case where the patent is not exploited: I wish the independent inventor good luck because it would be necessary to spend 24 hours a day to do "industrial" monitoring ... and when it is industrialized it is a bit too much late because with globalization, I find it hard to see the little inventor going to court with a Chinese or Indian subcontractor !!

That's why the guy eolprocess lost in advance ... even if his invention is nice appearance.

For example: we tried to make a blocking patent for Renault with our ... apparently he was blocked then? It has brought us what? ... Glory?

ps: not comode comode eh? But she said things yet very relevant that I can qu'acquisser: the inconvenient truth?
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by Gregconstruct » 04/09/08, 10:21

The concept may have a technical aspect to me it seems ...
And the innovative aspect, it is never a matter of perspective!
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by Lietseu » 04/09/08, 14:52

Christophe wrote:Lietseu: your video is the blank ... sorry.

Greg: no patents are NOT concepts. You cannot patent a concept or an idea. There has to be a technical and "innovative" aspect. I put "" to innovative because it is widely discussed.

Warning to France every patent that meet these criteria are accepted 2. Do not think that the INPI will refuse a patent because it looks like another (unless it's copied / pasted and again). It will tell simplment similarities (more or less obvious: X, Y, A + ... else I remember) with other patents the prior report.

As proof, the water doping has been re-dubbed as is many times by small malignant ... it will not help them at all.

Those who can block you on détentenur other valid patents: they still have to find your patent!

In the case where the patent is not exploited: I wish the independent inventor good luck because it would be necessary to spend 24 hours a day to do "industrial" monitoring ... and when it is industrialized it is a bit too much late because with globalization, I find it hard to see the little inventor going to court with a Chinese or Indian subcontractor !!

That's why the guy eolprocess lost in advance ... even if his invention is nice appearance.

For example: we tried to make a blocking patent for Renault with our ... apparently he was blocked then? It has brought us what? ... Glory?

ps: not comode comode eh? But she said things yet very relevant that I can qu'acquisser: the inconvenient truth?


Personally, what bothers me is not the focus on patents ...
This is the Buffalo Bill side, everything looks like a Buffalo should be shot!
After a ball that is used to kill, this is very scientific and rational ...

But our lives are not made solely of numbers, statistics, and trade laws! What happens to the rules such as solidarity, mutual aid, cooperation in front of someone who sees the numbers of those millions that can add one behind the other? who told you he is not there for you prick your ideas with these good principles?
I know what it is when you turn like that, it becomes a kind of crooked lawyers, unscrupulous, desperate for power couillonner other ... And in this regard I am an expert, not because I myself couillonner other, because I've been enc ... .. By doctors above all suspicion that drives their Porsche and their grannies, by lawyers who roll in Bentley, who promise you the moon and when you get it ... You sting all your money with a beaten dog look.
Everyone can not have a wonderful wonderful experience, smooth as cream, and most importantly, do not say anything!
You should not be sorry, when I find something interesting, I also post for review and, as I get, I'm quite happy! Regarding Mr. Dieudonné, I can only wish him the best, knowing which way it happened and what is still left to cross to put his invention on the market.
And if by chance I once the dough to buy invention are, I'd be the first to buy it!

If convenient, can not live with it, she went to get buff! In this regard I think the name is really well chosen ... : Mrgreen:

With very friendly greetings Lietseu :P
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by Hydraxon » 07/09/08, 16:58

Should we forget that the only failure to exploit a patent does fall into the public domain after 5 years, even if the charges are paid.

More subtly, I wonder if the automakers could go to the non-exploitation does not try to negotiate with them for an invention licenses when we have not ourselves the means to mass produce. In short: I have a revolutionary invention. I patented. I sells products manufactured one by one on a workroom. I slam the door to all manufacturers who want to negotiate. In this case, I harm much to the spread of the invention as that patented and is not used at all, and I think the lawyers of the manufacturers can make.
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