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magnetic piston engine three times

published: 23/07/08, 13:08
by curiosus
Hello,

I walk this forum for some time now, and I thought to myself why not let go of this crazy idea!

I simplify the unit: An internal combustion engine is a piston, a valve, a system of "distribution", a connecting rod.

- The piston is a strong magnet.
- The valve is a powerful electromagnet
- The "distribution" system is an electrical switch
- The connecting rod with its flywheel converts the reciprocating movement to rotary.

The idea is based on magnetic attraction / repulsion

In the electromagnet one discharges sometimes in one direction and sometimes in the other a capacitor of high capacity this to modify the "polarity" of the magnetic field of the electromagnet. Between the two states, a third - the one which allows the capacitor to be charged with a sufficient voltage so that its discharge in the electromagnet creates a sufficient magnetic field to attract or repel the magnetic piston.

Here is the basic idea ...

Well, there are indeed ingenious, experiementateurs me, I do not have the material means

So, is it crazy or not?

thank you for supporting me

published: 23/07/08, 17:38
by minguinhirigue
I think it has already been experienced, I must find it.

The only concern is that you lengthen the transmission chain by making the alternating-rotary conversion, the classic electric motors should therefore be more efficient. To check ... to experiment.

On the other hand as an energy converter, after combustion, and with a free piston, there may be some interesting things to see ... The free piston is a magnet, which goes back and forth between two chambers or sit the combustions, in the fins of the cooler circulate an electric current. After it remains to be seen whether or not the magnetic and electrical performance of the chosen materials has deteriorated?

published: 23/07/08, 18:15
by taramop
salut tous le monde

Yes it was done but we have no news of the project
I'm working on it under solid works on a 3 cylinder

otherwise the link is ca
http://translate.google.fr/translate?u= ... r&ie=UTF-8

published: 23/07/08, 20:08
by caracole
I thought I understood in the curiosus post that there is no combustion as minguinhirigue says. Only repulsion / attraction phases

published: 23/07/08, 20:10
by caracole
taramop wrote:salut tous le monde

Yes it was done but we have no news of the project
I'm working on it under solid works on a 3 cylinder

otherwise the link is ca
http://translate.google.fr/translate?u= ... r&ie=UTF-8


Very interesting video, did our friend Quartz notice it?

published: 23/07/08, 20:15
by taramop
yes, I think it was he who gave the link to another phopho

published: 23/07/08, 20:18
by caracole
In the animation presented in the link, everything is mechanical.

Curiosus speaks of an electromagnet which attracts then pushes back the piston.

published: 23/07/08, 20:35
by taramop
I'm drying the top
I can't decide

mechanical
electromechanical
or pure magnetic

Image

published: 23/07/08, 21:22
by curiosus
Interesting drawing.

I will lean for the idea of ​​electro above each piston. (a coil suitable for the diameter of the magnet, not too many turns, coarse wire)
remains to imagine the contactors (electro-mechanical solution and if we have fully electronic means!)
when a piston is "up" the contactor switches a capacitor (polarized) so that the discharge creates in the coil a magnetic field of the same sign as that of the piston and pushes it back. the coil is then disconnected and the capacitor is connected to the appropriate source of electricity

really it's delirious but hey ...

published: 23/07/08, 22:31
by taramop
it was in the ideas that I had
but I had imagined a piezoelectric system more than the piston or the crankshaft would operate.
but the disadvantage comes from the fact that to tear off the magnet from the magnetic circuit of the electromagnet it will be necessary to have too much energy.

my heart swings more for an electromagnet which will actuate a lever which will make move a shutter and will discover a magnet with the opposite pole