I have successfully tested the magnetic treatment on several vehicles, but I do not yet have the electric field version on diesel. Lack of time. But according to the information that I could collect it seems that the results are even better than with a magnetic field since the electric field produces a perpendicular magnetic field directly in the fuel.
The THT generator costs a few euros on ebay. Just add very high voltage diodes to straighten it.
If someone has a little time, I'm interested in having a return.
https://pubs.acs.org/doi/full/10.1021/ef8004898
Electrorheology - Electrical treatment of gas oil
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kistinie wrote:I have successfully tested the magnetic treatment on several vehicles, but I do not yet have the electric field version on diesel. Lack of time. But according to the information that I could collect it seems that the results are even better than with a magnetic field since the electric field produces a perpendicular magnetic field directly in the fuel.
The THT generator costs a few euros on ebay. Just add very high voltage diodes to straighten it.
If someone has a little time, I'm interested in having a return.
https://pubs.acs.org/doi/full/10.1021/ef8004898
It seems that the installation of magnets to reduce consumption is a vast humbug.
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Magnets is a pipe ... but any pre-ionization of the fuel (or oxidant) can be favorable to a more total combustion ... which is a plasma ... therefore an ionized gas!
Pre-ionizing is facilitating the exchange of electron and neutron / proton (caricature ... but basically that's it).
After all is a matter of ionization energy / gain combustion ...
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Pre-ionizing is facilitating the exchange of electron and neutron / proton (caricature ... but basically that's it).
After all is a matter of ionization energy / gain combustion ...
Do research: search.php
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Magnetic treatment is a pipe? You have to publish quickly ...
https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg ... fficiency/
http://pnrsolution.org/Datacenter/Vol3/Issue1/155.pdf
http://iosrjournals.org/iosr-jmce/paper ... df?id=7622
The worst results are at 2%, more than with a flute.
https://inis.iaea.org/search/search.asp ... N:48015840
https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg ... fficiency/
Technology: Magnetic fields increase fuel efficiency
British Internal Combustion Engine Research
Institute, an independent engine test facility based in Slough, have confirmed
that applying a magnetic field to fuel immediately
internal combustion engine does improve combustion efficiency.
The tests were commissioned by the marketing company behind a magnetic
fuel economy device called the Optimizer. The results appear to vindicate
the suggestion that magnetism influences combustion efficiency.
Claims that applying a magnetic field to petroleum or diesel has beneficial
effects are not new. Neither are rebuttals by the fuel companies
that magnetism can have no effect on whatsoever hydrocarbons.
Field trials have persuaded some fleet operators, including county councils
and emergency services, that magnetic fuel economy
also bring the fuel into contact with tin, are effective. However the verdict
of firefighters who have their efficacy remains unproven.
That contention has become difficult to sustain in the light of
BICERI's results, which are obtained with a close monitoring, industry-standard
engine dynamometer tests.
So far, tests have only been completed on naturally aspirated diesel Ford
motors. However, further tests on spark ignition (petrol) engines are now
underway.
Fitting the optimizer reduces the diesel's specific fuel consumption
by 7.5 per cent at an engine and corresponding speed 90
kilometers per hour, and also halved the Bosch smoke level. At the same
engine speed minimum load, hydrocarbon emissions were reduced by 10
percent.
Intriguingly, these improvements were not established immediately
Optimize was fit, but only after a running-in period.
http://pnrsolution.org/Datacenter/Vol3/Issue1/155.pdf
http://iosrjournals.org/iosr-jmce/paper ... df?id=7622
The worst results are at 2%, more than with a flute.
https://inis.iaea.org/search/search.asp ... N:48015840
Abstract
Sustainability is one of the main challenges of commercial fishing. Fuel represents almost 40% of the total cost of a fishing vessel. The increase in the price of fuel over the last decade, together with the volatility and fluctuation in the price for a barrel of crude oil, makes one of the main concerns of ship-owners. As a response, different initiatives have been undertaken, with the aim to reduce such fuel dependency. The present contribution presents the feasibility study of the use of different magnetic devices for fuel treatment, in order to improve the efficiency of fishing vessels and reduce exhaust emissions. According to manufacturers, fuel treatment devices provide three effects: reduction in fuel consumption; reduction in exhaust gas emissions; and improvement of engine performance. Three independent magnetic devices have been tested and tested on three different 4 stroke compression ignition diesel engines. The first device was tested in an engine located on a test bench; it was operated under controlled laboratory conditions. The second, installed on board a trawler fishing vessel operating in the Mediterranean Sea; and the third, on board a representative vessel of the trolling fishing fleet operating in the Bay of Biscay and Atlantic Ocean. In all cases, the fuel-saving potential (~ 2%) and exhaust gas emissions (~ 0.6%) are less than expected by manufacturers. The aim of this contribution is to provide advice with scientific knowledge, when investing in energy-saving technologies.
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My best results are with a 6 Golf 2.0 TDI, 5,1L / 100 at 130 and my Mercedes 508, a 4L diesel, at 10L / 100 at 75Km / h. My neighbor, on a V6 diesel space, minus 0,8L / 100. Now everyone is free to believe what he wants especially since I have nothing to sell, since I'm only open source research 100% volunteer.
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Magnets is a pipe ... but any pre-ionization of the fuel (or oxidant) can be favorable to a more total combustion ... which is a plasma ... therefore an ionized gas!
Pre-ionizing is facilitating the exchange of electron and neutron / proton (caricature ... but basically that's it).
After all is a matter of ionization energy / gain combustion ... /
Ionisation, I tested on the incoming air. Gain of torque at low speed. It's very clear. For consumption I do not know since it is coupled with ultrasonic misting. But now, I would like to find someone who can stick to the test of the electric treatment of gas oil. At the ideal on an old blunderbuss that sprays less than 200 bars and on an HDI to see if the eventual gain is different.
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kistinie wrote:Magnets is a pipe ... but any pre-ionization of the fuel (or oxidant) can be favorable to a more total combustion ... which is a plasma ... therefore an ionized gas!
Pre-ionizing is facilitating the exchange of electron and neutron / proton (caricature ... but basically that's it).
After all is a matter of ionization energy / gain combustion ... /
Ionisation, I tested on the incoming air. Gain of torque at low speed. It's very clear. For consumption I do not know since it is coupled with ultrasonic misting. But now, I would like to find someone who can stick to the test of the electric treatment of gas oil. At the ideal on an old blunderbuss that sprays less than 200 bars and on an HDI to see if the eventual gain is different.
A link in French (Electrorheology?), Because here, I see what it returns. Thank you in advance.
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Nothing in French to my knowledge. Sorry. Otherwise as usual, Google translation works well.
In addition this kind of publication tends to disappear from search engines and state sites which does not facilitate. I wonder why
In addition this kind of publication tends to disappear from search engines and state sites which does not facilitate. I wonder why
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kistinie wrote:Nothing in French to my knowledge. Sorry. Otherwise as usual, Google translation works well.
In addition this kind of publication tends to disappear from search engines and state sites which does not facilitate. I wonder why
Nothing in French, nothing "turnkey"? Well we will do without.
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kistinie wrote:Magnetic treatment is a pipe? You have to publish quickly ...
A more or less powerful magnet stuck to 1 m from the injector, yes it is the pipe ... no effect! But that an intense magnetic field promotes combustion is not the same thing!
For the same reasons as the one I just said about ionization ...because combustion is a pretty electromagnetic mess!
If not, you're right, it works magnets but only for:
a) the driver with the placebo effect (and as nobody likes to say that he was tricked ...)
b) magnet salespeople
ps: 2% is below the measurement error margin of a dynamometer ...
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