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Rotate the planet with solar energy




by Blain » 06/11/10, 11:07

Hello everyone and thank you for your brain activity.

On the dedicated post: (Planetary electrical network to avoid storage https://www.econologie.com/forums/reseau-ele ... 10111.html ), it appears that it is therefore possible to transfer large amounts of electrical energy.

The wiring can be very predominantly terrestrial, and distribute or receive where it passes, I rotate a globe and I notice that most continents are almost connected by the North Pole, we can imagine three main lines going down, one that crosses from north to south the American continents, one that crosses from north to south, Europe and Africa, one that crosses from north to south, Russia, China, Indonesia, Australia. It is not a question of going down a big cable straight, it is necessary to multiply the passages to favor the distribution,
Note: there is a hole in front of Africa and Europe, so no consumer on site, if it is chosen to position floating panels, or panels fixed on the seabed, or with floats between two waters. It is conceivable to build these floating panels on the edge of the ocean and tow them to their destinations.

Instead of creating floating panels in the hole opposite Europe and Africa, would it not be wise to use the short storage energies corresponding to the burning of methane generated by human activities (digestion of waste, slurry farms), Europe and Africa would be fed at night by short storage, this is where the thermodynamic short storage solar power plants, located in Africa and southern Europe, come into play.

So the network would consist mainly of a U going from Brazil, going through Canada, to China and ending in Australia. Europe and Africa are fed alternately by the two continents.

For the difficulties concerning the political instability, the networks are multiple, and to cut the meter to those who become turbulent, it is rather an advantage.

For the financial challenge, the multiple networks serve to serve the countries crossed, they have an internal utility to each country crossed.

To you to write the continuation (do not speak at the beginning of the windmills, it is to simplify the debate, the windmills you add them at the end, it will be the debate of the price and the aesthetics and the complementarity between these two versions). ...

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by sen-no-sen » 06/11/10, 12:50

Blain wrote:

For the difficulties concerning the political instability, the networks are multiple, and to cut the meter to those who become turbulent, it is rather an advantage.


Nice for the people!

This kind of "mega-projects" are to be avoided, it is quite possible to produce energy on a local scale.
Globalized energy trading will once again be a (very profitable) way for powerful multinationals to keep the citizens of the world on their heels.

Do you know the technology of vortex towers?
https://www.econologie.com/forums/tours-aerogeneratrices-a-effet-vortex-synthese-t3801.html
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by Obamot » 06/11/10, 14:45

sen-no-sen wrote:Blain wrote:

For the difficulties concerning the political instability, the networks are multiple, and to cut the meter to those who become turbulent, it is rather an advantage.


Nice for the people!


Yeah, startling, the most western talk ever read here. It remains to be determined "to whom we cut" and especially "who decides". : Evil:

Bravo: we are dealing with a real solution : Mrgreen:
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by Blain » 07/11/10, 10:49

Hello
The possibility of cutting sectors is absolutely necessary:

1) Example, if a country like France consumes distressingly without compensating by restitution of electricity or financially the system, France can be disconnected because of bad behavior towards the system.

2) Example, a country that is bombed these production plants for military reasons, as happened in recent history, the sanction to destroy the production plants will be transformed into exclusion of the global network, it's a lot less reversible than making everything fart.

3) One can not do without disconnectors on such a network, only to ensure safety in case of failure of a sector, due to bad weather, malfunction or sabotage.

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by sen-no-sen » 07/11/10, 15:28

Blain wrote:(...) bad behavior towards the system (...)



Hi Blain!

This sentence reminds me of the movie Equilibrium from Kurt Wimmer ....

Could you explain to me who will run this "system"?
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by chatelot16 » 07/11/10, 19:54

Rotate the planet with solar energy ???

what a funny idea ? the planet turns alone! it's a perpetual movement! a true that exists
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by Blain » 07/11/10, 22:00

Hello

Who will lead this system, I do not intend to lead it, I am living, an organization like IMF, which is not under the tutelage of state, financial power, religion, political party, it's very hard to imagine. Maybe create a representative association in proportion to the users who elect many representatives who will vote for the decisions. It is true that designing a system without predicting the driver is not reasonable.

Perhaps we need to see what is happening internationally now and working.
Money flows, who controls this system?
Fossil energies circulate, who controls this system?
Internet works, who controls this system?

Propose solutions if you find them.


Yes Chatelot, to make the planet turn is a shortcut, for the title, it is necessary to understand how to make use the tools used on the planet, you had understood it I suppose.

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by aerialcastor » 07/11/10, 22:30

chatelot16 wrote: the planet turns alone! it's a perpetual movement! a true that exists


Well, it seems like no ...
When the Earth was "created" by aggregation of dust, these gave it an initial movement. And the speed of rotation of the Earth would decrease by friction.
http://www.dinosoria.com/rotation_terre.htm

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by dedeleco » 07/11/10, 23:29

The earth has been slowing down since 4,5 billions of years after its formation with the moon much closer.
The tides on earth (seas and also in the earth) due to the lunar attraction and that of the sun, a little behind the earth's rotation, dissipate energy (slight earth heating) which slows down the earth by internal friction in the Earth and also by giving Earth's rotational energy to the moon to keep it away from the Earth on 4 billions of years !!
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lune
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moon
This synchronous rotation results from the friction caused by the tides caused by the Earth to the Moon which gradually led the Moon to slow its rotation on itself, until the period of this movement coincides with that of the revolution. of the Moon around the Earth. Currently the tidal effects of the Moon on the Earth slow the rotation of the latter and causes a slight distance between the two stars about 3,8 cm per year. In fact, the moon at its creation orbited at a distance 15 times less than today and the Earth then turned on itself in 6 hours [7].

and the tides were 15x15 times higher !!
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by sspid14 » 08/11/10, 02:05

chatelot16 wrote:Rotate the planet with solar energy ???

what a funny idea ? the planet turns alone! it's a perpetual movement! a true that exists

The planet still turns around the sun thanks to this one, but it is the solar gravity rather than the solar energy ...
But in the background gravity, it's still an energy ...
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