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Is Germany (already) using Plaquenil (Chloroquine) against Covid-19?

published: 18/03/20, 21:25
by Christophe
Germany has an extraordinarily low mortality rate in the Coronavirus crisis ... today it is 28/12327 = 0,23% according to https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries

However, the global mortality rate for the day is 8908 / 216822 = 4,10%

0,23% mortality is almost 18 times less than the world average ...

What is the secret of Germany? Beer? The sauerkraut? Wurst (sausage)? Their uber-genes? Oops sorry ...

Good laugh not, you speak to an Alsatian, thus inevitably half German for the majority of the other French!


What if it was the use of Plaquenil (Chloroquine) or another treatment that they would have already found? Germany is one of the world's leading pharmaceutical power ...

All recent research https://www.mediterranee-infection.com/ ... I_IJAA.pdf have shown that the use of Plaquenil combined with an antibiotic Azithromycin allows (rait?) to decrease by 95% of the infection rate at 6 days as shown in this graph from this video:



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And you know what? 95% decrease or 5% in fine, hey bin, it's about 18 times less than 100 ... Roooooh what a wonderful coincidence! We come back to the death rate report!


A video and information were published yesterday on this subject: Health-pollution-prevention / the-transmission-to-person-of-2019-Sxy-is-PROVED t16285-500.html # p384886

Have French TV started talking about Plaquenil?

Since yesterday, Sanofi has offered to "offer" it in all cases: https://www.lefigaro.fr/societes/corona ... s-20200318

Edit PUBLICATION OF NATURE ON CHLOROQUIN Thank you Guy, see below ...

Published on FEBRUARY 4 (before the European pandemic therefore)

s41422-020-0282-0.pdf
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Source: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41422-020-0282-0.pdf

Summary in French:

Our results show that remdesivir and chloroquine are very effective in controlling 2019-nCoV infection in vitro. Since these compounds have been used in human patients with a medical history and have been shown to be effective against a variety of diseases, we suggest that they should be evaluated in human patients with the new coronavirus disease.


As the graphs below show, the results are spectacular and Chloroquine has already been widely used in the past on patients with a history, the risk of undesirable is therefore low!

The urgency of the current crisis must speed up the passage in vivo ... What the French researcher dared to do above ... who, in my opinion, deserves a medal and not the contempt of his peers! No doubt jealousy to hide their mediocrity! : Evil:

Screenshot_2020-03-19 Remdesivir and chloroquine effectively inhibit the recently appeared novel coronavirus (2019-nCoV) in [...]. Png



Re: Is Germany (already) using Plaquenil (Chloroquine) against Covid-19?

published: 18/03/20, 21:30
by GuyGadebois
Yes but .... do the Germans use this product? That is the question.
Edit: My wife tells me that she hasn't read anything to that effect.

Re: Is Germany (already) using Plaquenil (Chloroquine) against Covid-19?

published: 18/03/20, 22:00
by Christophe
Well there is no certainty!

But if the tests and statistics are therefore reliable (those of the dead are ... I think!) ...I would be a political leader of another country I would expressly ask what is the secret or the therapeutic method of the Germans to obtain such a low mortality rate !!

Maybe they stand out from the old batch or recipe of Pervitine? But that, well, they can't say it !! : Mrgreen: : Mrgreen: : Mrgreen:

Re: Is Germany (already) using Plaquenil (Chloroquine) against Covid-19?

published: 18/03/20, 22:05
by Christophe
A Youtuber calls the Germans a liar about the dead:


Re: Is Germany (already) using Plaquenil (Chloroquine) against Covid-19?

published: 18/03/20, 22:35
by sen-no-sen
Germany has above all a very large number of hospitals:
With 806,3 hospital beds per 100 inhabitants, Germany has the largest offer in the European Union. According to these Eurostat data, dating from 000, the Federal Republic far exceeds France (2016) or Great Britain (604,6). The hospital supply is spread over German territory in around 257,5 establishments, often small.

https://www.lopinion.fr/edition/international/allemagne-etude-plaide-reduction-drastique-nombre-d-hopitaux-192984

Our friends from across the Rhine did not seem to succumb to the neo-liberal injunctions to reduce the number of beds ...

Re: Is Germany (already) using Plaquenil (Chloroquine) against Covid-19?

published: 18/03/20, 22:39
by Christophe
It is quite possible that it is simply linked to this ... Since the Italian rate is approaching 2 ...

But good compared to France 8/6 the report is not there!

In any case, we can predict a health disaster similar to Italy in the UK ...

Re: Is Germany (already) using Plaquenil (Chloroquine) against Covid-19?

published: 19/03/20, 00:37
by izentrop
The tests that gave spectacular results on 24 patients, it was with a combination of plaquenil + AZT, when we already knew that AZT was effective. It's still light and the AZT cannot be distributed to everyone
Sibeth Ndiaye made it clear that at this stage, "we have no scientific evidence" that this treatment works. Several experts are also reserved in the absence of further studies and because of the side effects of this drug, possibly serious, especially in case of overdose.

A Chinese study dating from February had already mentioned the effectiveness of chloroquine after a test on more than 100 patients. "This had raised hope, then this track had fallen into oblivion before the Marseille team delivered these results," said Professor François Bricaire, former head of the infectious diseases department of the Pitié-Salpêtrière hospital in Paris.

"These are only announcement effects for the moment, and above all do not make the miracle drug, implores Professor Jean-Daniel Lelièvre, infectiologist at the Henri-Mondor hospital in Créteil (Val-de-Marne ). Respect the scientific rules: other trials are underway on other molecules and it is exasperating for scientists to make large declarations on the effects of a drug without even having seen their results or having been validated by their peers. " http://www.leparisien.fr/societe/sante/ ... 282475.php
wait & see.

Re: Is Germany (already) using Plaquenil (Chloroquine) against Covid-19?

published: 19/03/20, 00:45
by GuyGadebois
Remdesivir and Chloroquine Effectively Inhibit Newly Emerged Coronavirus In Vitro (2019-nCoV)

http://translate.google.com/translate?h ... 020-0282-0

Re: Is Germany (already) using Plaquenil (Chloroquine) against Covid-19?

published: 19/03/20, 00:57
by Christophe
izentrop wrote:The tests that gave spectacular results on 24 patients, it was with a combination of plaquenil + AZT, when we already knew that AZT was effective. It's still light and the AZT cannot be distributed to everyone

Sibeth Ndiaye made it clear that at this stage, "we have no scientific evidence" that this treatment works. Several experts are also reserved in the absence of further studies and because of the side effects of this drug, possibly serious, especially in case of overdose.

A Chinese study dating from February had already mentioned the effectiveness of chloroquine after a test on more than 100 patients. "This had raised hope, then this track had fallen into oblivion before the Marseille team delivered these results," said Professor François Bricaire, former head of the infectious diseases department of the Pitié-Salpêtrière hospital in Paris.

"These are only announcement effects for the moment, and above all do not make the miracle drug, implores Professor Jean-Daniel Lelièvre, infectiologist at the Henri-Mondor hospital in Créteil (Val-de-Marne ). Respect the scientific rules: other trials are underway on other molecules and it is exasperating for scientists to make large declarations on the effects of a drug without even having seen their results or having been validated by their peers. " http://www.leparisien.fr/societe/sante/ ... 282475.php
wait & see.


AZT boosts the results but it is chloroquine which makes the bulk of the decline according to the curves ... 24 patients is not much but we have a much greater potential on hand so we wait what to confirm (or not) ?

Not made the connection it is the same AZT as for AIDS?

I have not listened to the stupid thing for a long time ... sorry I never listened to it!

ps: and why we would not make the miracle drug if it works (without too many consequences?) ... fallen into oblivion in the current context is very serious! it's actually exasperating!

Re: Is Germany (already) using Plaquenil (Chloroquine) against Covid-19?

published: 19/03/20, 01:03
by Christophe
GuyGadebois wrote:http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=fr&sl=auto&tl=fr&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nature.com%2Farticles%2Fs41422-020-0282-0


Well, is that not a confirmation by a review committee?

if beast and the creteil infectiologist can go back to bed !! : Evil: : Evil: : Evil:

WHO specialists do not read nature ??? The item is more than 40 days old !!