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WHO in the clutches Lobbyists




by Janic » 05/04/17, 11:34

an interesting documentary spent yesterday on arte: WHO in the clutches of lobbyists and in the adventures of medicine: overcoming epidemics during which an interesting passage on the eradication of smallpox on the whole of the world by isolation of the infectious foci when the systematic vaccination was in failure.
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by Christophe » 05/04/17, 14:42

Can a link be?

Arte had also attacked the lobbies that are the pharmaceutical companies a few years ago with "Diseases for sale": health-pollution-prevention / diseases-for-sale-manufacturers-of-sick-arte-thema-t11248.html
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by izentrop » 05/04/17, 15:24

Hello,
Janic wrote:an interesting passage on the eradication of smallpox from the whole world by the isolation of the infectious foci while the systematic vaccination was in failure.
It was totally eradicated on October 26, 1977 (the date of the last known case in Somalia, a hospital cook1), thanks to a campaign by the World Health Organization (WHO) combining massive vaccination campaigns, from 1958, with a "Surveillance and containment strategy", implemented from 1967. https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Variole#H ... n_du_virus
Decoder mode: The word "failure" is too many : Twisted:
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by Janic » 05/04/17, 17:11

Decoder mode: The word "failure" is too many
everything is in the subtlety of the words used.
failure:
Negative result of an attempt, of a company, lack of success; defeat, failure, setback:

Learn more about http://www.larousse.fr/dictionnaires/fr ... rfxsbpJ.99

"The initial strategy, planned for eradication in Third World countries, estimated that a vaccination rate of at least 80% was necessary to eradicate the virus. The vaccination campaign is proving difficult to implement.

The final report of the World Commission on the Certification of WHO Eradication noted:

"Eradication campaigns based entirely or mainly on mass vaccination have been successful in some countries but failed in most of the cases. […] In India, five years after a national eradication campaign undertaken in 1962 (55 cases), the number of notifications was higher (84 cases) than it had never been since 902. It would have been extremely costly and logistically difficult, if not impossible, to achieve much higher levels of coverage. With the means available, it was absolutely necessary to change strategy. "

The WHO then changed its strategy in 1967, implementing the “surveillance and containment strategy”, which consisted of isolating the cases and vaccinating all those who lived in the vicinity of epidemic centers. An international team is formed under the leadership of American Donald Henderson. "
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the WHO report, part 8.4.3 talks about containment as the report in question shows.
However, it is since Jenner that intensive vaccination campaigns worldwide have not succeeded in eradicating this disease despite the immense technical and financial means implemented.
The initiator of this containment, the son of a pastor, could not ignore the rules of hygiene and isolation recommended by the texts of the TA (regularly read in most Protestant assemblies) and therefore probably returned to him in memory. It was the same for Semmelweiss who "discovered" or rather rediscovered the same rules of hygiene recommended in the texts in question and which are imposed in hospitals today. In the same way plagues and cholera could have been avoided by these appropriate hygienic measures which were put forward by Pasteur among others.
Same thing to stem the periods of flu much more effective than vaccines.
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Re: WHO in the clutches of lobbyists




by izentrop » 06/04/17, 10:14

Janic wrote:... plagues and cholera could have been avoided by these appropriate hygienic measures which were put forward by Pasteur among others. Same thing to stem the periods of influenza much more effective than the vaccines.

Nothing in WHO publications leads to your anti-vaxx conclusions.

To effectively fight against highly infectious diseases, several strategies such as hygiene, containment and containment are mentioned, associated with vaccination campaigns. One does not go without the other. The final report
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by Janic » 11/04/17, 18:50

janic wrote: ... the plagues and cholera could have been avoided by these appropriate hygienic measures which were put forward by Pasteur among others. Same thing to stem the periods of influenza much more effective than the vaccines.
Nothing in WHO publications leads to your anti-vaxx conclusions.

Effectively ! WHO has always been provaccine and can not help but support this discourse without stepping aside. But in this case, and for smallpox that has existed for centuries, it was containment that proved effective and not mass vaccination that could not solve the problem.
Then, for the documentary, the vaccination of close relatives remains in this perspective that, despite everything, these vaccinations could prove useful. However, the immediate entourage happened to be smallpox already cured and therefore naturally immunized where relatives, uncontaminated and naturally immunized. On the other hand deafening silence on the contaminations due to the vaccines.

To effectively fight against highly infectious diseases, several strategies such as hygiene, containment and containment are mentioned, associated with vaccination campaigns. One does not go without the other.

It is a discourse that does not stand up to reality knowing that about 70% of the fight against the disease is hygienic, (overall health situation) and the fight against malnutrition (as Montagnier points out for AIDS too) . To have certainty, only a comparison between populations with equivalent levels of hygiene and nutrition makes it possible to sort, which is hardly seen in “official” surveys.
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