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Virtual Reality: What are the risks to health?




by Christophe » 02/05/16, 13:44

Following the remark made here: electricity-electronics-computing / virtual-reality-the-happens-a-big-not-to-discover-t14085-10.html # p302686, I open this topic to talk about the effects on health of the use of virtual reality (there are certainly some studies done ...)

So I repeat my answer to Sen-no-sen in the link above:

Christophe wrote:Nothing to report on my side eye level, yet I have a small (-1 in each eye) myopia.
I use RV headphones without my glasses.

By cons it is known that VR can give dizziness and nausea: the brain struggles to integrate the lack of movement and accelerations of the body compared to the treatment of vision. This is especially valid "when we walk" (without walking) in virtual reality, like FPS games.

I felt nothing particular when I stayed 50 minutes away on Titans of space, it was by far my longest VR experience. Maybe because we don't "walk" ... (...)


Otherwise the use of VR with an application that would require a lot of data transfer via Wi-Fi or worse 3G / 4G could actually pose health concerns: the "source" of waves being located less than 10 cm from the brain. ..If it lasts for hours, not so good! In Wi-Fi it is a lesser evil. I think that the use of 3G / 4G is to be avoided when doing virtual reality ...
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by Obamot » 02/05/16, 16:49

Yes, of course, there are pathologies, particularly related to the addiction of the use >>> which bears (in particular) the name of "cyberdependence"

With colateral damage: obesity, insomnia, depression and other problems of social integration, etc.

sen-no-sen wrote:Despite the general enthusiasm for this new technology, I think it would be advisable to inform its future public of the potential risks that this represents for the sight.
I tried the Samsung gear (not to mention it) a colleague of work, and I must admit that I very quickly felt an eye strain that very quickly stopped me this experience ....
I do not think it has any (negative) effect on sight.
Moreover some applications should be developed to correct myopia, proof that such a device can cause changes.


View problem too, if the system encourages eye fixity. If it facilitates eye mobility, it is the opposite, a benefit and an advance towards the possible abandonment of the wearing of eyeglasses, thanks to the gymnastics that the eye must indeed do indeed - not directly to correct myopia, but to prevent it from happening by keeping a certain flexibility to the cornea - (or a much longer delay until the administration of their prescription). But I do not know to what extent this can create eye strain. No doubt when the movements become excessive (too fast or too many), so violent and / or under stress?
So thank you Sen-no-Sen, for the feedback!

And each year we discover "new" ailments which are listed in the DSM >>>

Although we should not dramatize of course, it is to watch if we have kids ...
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by Obamot » 02/05/16, 17:26

PS: a certain flexibility to the cornea and to the whole ocular block, with as prophylaxis for the sight, I thought for example to a computer screen integrated in glasses of glasses with a field of vision quite broad (kind 32 / 9ème ), to force the eye to scan / explore in the corners, just an idea.
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by sen-no-sen » 02/05/16, 21:07

Christophe wrote:

ps: I do not understand your last sentence? Can you develop?


Some ophthalmologists think to use the VR helmets to correct certain pathologies of the sight, in particular the laziness of one eye compared to another, the myopia etc .... which demonstrates that the effects are very real.
For my part I leave out this technology, I have always been very careful about my eyesight (I have 12 / 10 in both eyes) which may explain the fatigue I felt (?);
Originally the human eye is made to look far, moreover, a little anecdote in passing, the personnel of submarines when they practice long outings must perform each week a session of "distant gaze" which consists of fixing the end of a corridor (sometimes the exercise takes place in the corridor of the missile silos) in order to work on the acuity on distant objects, something difficult when we have spent H / 24 in an environment where everything is less of 2m ....

For the rest as mentioned Obamot, I fear that this technology leads to an even stronger dependence on the virtual.
It is also undeniable that VR technology will allow bluffing experiences in the near future, we can for example imagine real "courses" with VR headsets which "will dress" the (real) landscape with a virtual cover and thus dive the experimenter in a new world halfway between reality and virtuality.
Technology obviously interests the military to immerse future soldiers in conditions close to reality, driving drones, robots etc ...
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by Obamot » 02/05/16, 22:44

"cool" extended VR attacks in real simultaneous reality TV (but in a REAL war situation with real deaths) and yes, the limit between real / false war situation and real conflicts with real non-virtual victims will merge : with drones, note that we are already there, yes alas (and there too there are serious pathologies which emerge among the pilots of these machines, who kill on orders, however, 10 or 20 km from the place of these assassinations : Evil: they will "have to" anticipate and "manufacture" wars to experience these new "interfaces" these bastards ... And then to be surprised that young people go crazy like in Paris on November 13 ...
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by Christophe » 02/05/16, 22:59

Obamot wrote:(...) which bears (in particular) the name of "cyberdependence"

With colateral damage: obesity, insomnia, depression and other problems of social integration, etc.


Will "cyber virtualization" worsen "cyber addiction"? This is debatable because Geeks and cyber addiction have been around for 20-30 years (especially from the internet and online games ...), after that it is sure that porn applications are likely to stick some : Mrgreen:

I still have in mind the famous scene of Brainstorm ... where a guy was stuck on a porn for hours (?) ... an overview below at 1min42 : Cheesy:

If a film deserves a remake, it is this one because it has aged quite badly (note that there are green notes in it: the "hero" rides a recumbent bike and has a sort of earthship house. ecoconstruction-hqe / earthship-the-housing-recycle-green-and-ecolo de 40-year-t9821.html !)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNiZP2G-nEM

ps: Speaking of VR addiction, Marc Dorcel is a world pioneer in the field: hot videos 360 ° (and the Japanese have already made a combi cybersex ... in short ... it promises!)! Go to the link because you are nice: http://www.dorcel.com/VR/?lang=fr : Mrgreen: (not tested ...)
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by Christophe » 02/05/16, 23:13

Obamot wrote:who kill on order however to 10 or 20'000 km of the place of these assassinations : Evil: they will "have to" anticipate and "manufacture" wars to experience these new "interfaces" these bastards ... And then to be surprised that young people go crazy like in Paris on November 13 ...


A bit out of order but I am convinced that a "Terminator" robot already exists in the labs: that is to say an autonomous armed robot capable of automatic aiming on thermal sources (therefore "living" ...) ... alone " ethics "prevent its democratization for the moment ... and possibly the" bug "which could make it shoot its user : Mrgreen: : Mrgreen:

Obviously today it is not a biped and it must be even more stupid than that of the film ... : Mrgreen:

In short, such a "trick" could decimate hundreds of poorly equipped opposing soldiers against this kind of new "killer" ...

A turret version would be even more difficult to put out of use for humans ... but also pay attention to the friendly fire ... It may be this reason that prohibits, for the moment, its use ... well before ethics ...
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by sen-no-sen » 02/05/16, 23:30

Christophe wrote:A bit out of order but I am convinced that a "Terminator" robot already exists in the labs: that is to say an autonomous armed robot capable of automatic aiming on thermal sources (therefore "living" ...) ... alone " ethics "prevent its democratization for the moment ... and possibly the" bug "which could make it shoot its user : Mrgreen: : Mrgreen:

Obviously today it is not a biped and it must be even more stupid than that of the film ... : Mrgreen:


Some months ago boston dynamics who we owed him big dog developed Atlas:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVlhMGQgDkY

And a few months ago he only walked with the support of cables in a lab ... we will notice that progress is going fast!
Coupled with a remote piloting system via a VR headset (while waiting for the AI), one can imagine that such a device could enter a combat zone and make "beautiful boxes" ...
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by Christophe » 02/05/16, 23:45

Ah yes not bad the Atlas, I obviously know the "dog" but not yet its bipedal version ... what is its autonomy? 10 minutes?

Yes for the cardboard ... Nevertheless: a "biped" is more fragile than a small armored robot on a track (and certainly more energyvore) ... therefore not sure that this is this solution (even if it does a lot more "Terminator" ...) which is retained for the "killer" robots ...

For remote control, we will go in drone version and not robot.

If we omit ethics and the problem of the late friend: I think that a computer will aim better than a human at a distance (he just won't have the capacity for reasoning: a robot will knock everything down until it is say to stop ... we could even program a "non-lethal" mode for him: target only the legs or arms for example ... unlike the man under fire who, to save his skin, will not do in The detail...)

Well we move a little away from the RV and health ... although ... being shot by a killer drone controlled by virtual headset is health (or not) lol : Mrgreen: : Mrgreen:
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by sen-no-sen » 03/05/16, 00:06

Christophe wrote:Ah yes not bad the Atlas, I obviously know the "dog" but not yet its bipedal version ... what is its autonomy? 10 minutes?


10min today, 30min in 6mois, 2heures in 3 years etc etc ... by means of a fuel cell, such machines should be operational soon (2025?).
The biped to its limits, but it offers the opportunity to climb ladders, see trees, this will be the next phase ... nothing prevents hybrid modes to 2 or 4 legs in land functions .. it's beautiful biomimicry! :|
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