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Aerated concrete and health? Thermopierre, Ytong, Siporex ...

published: 14/04/11, 11:48
by Christophe
What is the impact of cellular concrete house on the health of its long-term residents?

I had read a while ago that cellular concrete would release "vapors" of aluminum oxides that are harmful in the long term to the nervous system ...

The purpose of this is to know what it is exactly?
Is what some of you have information or studies on the subject.
And if there is a potential problem, what are the solutions?

My question is not innocent, with us some rooms have Ytong walls left "raw", that is to say without finishing. And I have enough trouble with my brain like that so I would not aggravate the situation if possible ... : Cheesy: : Cheesy:

ps: if there is a potential problem with cellular concrete, it could be the same with "cellular insulating" concrete Multipor : https://www.econologie.com/forums/isolation- ... 10693.html

published: 14/04/11, 12:10
by dedeleco
vapors "of aluminum oxides harmful in the long term to the nervous system ...


Fumes ???
Given the melting temperature and vapor of this very stable oxide (over 2000 ° C), the vapor form is impossible !!
Dust is conceivable, but by eating aluminum packaging or pan or aluminum container, attacked by food, although more one eats !!!
Vaccination we gave once more !!
Relationship with Alzheimer's in the intensive use of aluminum containers and pans in the years 50 not impossible.
Etc. ..

So not convinced by scientific and references on this claim would be worth.

published: 14/04/11, 14:47
by Christophe
Ben hence the usefulness of this: trying to clarify.

I did put "vapors" between "" for the reason you mentioned! Obviously these are not vapors ... but I do not know if dust (visible by definition not?) Is suitable ...

We will say: "scents" : Mrgreen:

Let's start by finding doc on aluminum and health!

Speaking of aluminum, the new tide of pink / red 2010? https://www.econologie.com/forums/maree-roug ... 10015.html

published: 14/04/11, 23:18
by bidouille23
Bsoir,

if it's like water thy walls are then de-bacterisé :) .

Alzheimer awaits us at the same time we do not remember so it does not matter;).

ok I'm leaving

see you

published: 15/04/11, 10:32
by Christophe
bidouille23 wrote:if it's like water thy walls are then de-bacterisé :) .


No comprendo! : Idea:

published: 15/04/11, 13:27
by bidouille23
Bonjour,

I said that for all those who drink tap water (well almost except those of Paris, Lyon and I do not know which city) the final "antibacterial" treatment done with aluminum, arfff have all been going to type alzheimer with this me..de.
So for black humor, I said that your walls are sanitized at least;).

http://www.lenntech.fr/francais/alumini ... nement.htm

I have friends who work at Veolia and just redo the central water docks at St perros 22, hi tech hi tech super central yes, he retired the water and comes with a great quality only catch it final treatment sulfate and aluminum chloride arff suddenly making this bad enough water, very bad view by saying this, a consumer (little extra it also have the right to open the floodgates for directly releasing the overflow in the sea, not great but that's another problem : Evil: ).

I know there are other method (iron oxide I cross) but that costs much more expensive and which suddenly finds himself in big cities such Paris Lyon, outlet water of its central is much better than that Treaty aluminum.

So well I would say that aluminum oxide must be terrible breathed in the end, but your wall must be débacterisés;).

I'm not a specialist but something tell me it stinks :|

see you

published: 15/04/11, 13:34
by Christophe
Ok I understand there :)

I knew that the copper with a strong anti bacterial power, but I did not know for aluminum ...

This is perhaps why the Xella docs indicate (without going into details) that their cellular concrete-based products are "anti-mold and anti-algae"

Well this does not reassure me on the walls that were left rough with us :| but hey it still does not mean that there is volatility in the aluminum content in the blocks ...

Well I'm going to start to see what it is like plastered Ytong ... : Cheesy:

published: 15/04/11, 13:48
by dedeleco
Aluminum walls is much less dangerous and insignificant quantity than that in water, cooking pots, vaccines, drugs, etc .., he ingested and stored at life in the brain.
Finally you can plaster on the inside!

I think no problem!
Indeed clays, soil dust, cement, etc .., have a lot of aluminum everywhere, not only in bauxite.
Cement chromium is more dangerous !!

published: 15/04/11, 16:28
by bidouille23
Re,

a good example sand lime plaster is simple cheap and very effective anti-bacterial and anti fungal but also aluminum;), and a gray avce less energy than the plaster if I am mistaken;). a good rough coat for grip and shoo coated in one or two layers, with sand blasted, the very fine white shining much, once in the coating when you do the cleaning with a sponge and well you get glitter bright very nice (personal taste), in short you can raved about colors shapes etc .you can also do like visiting friends, making the final smoothing roller mmmm is superb with beautiful color washes (in the mass c 'for the old timers who manages;)).


If the mud plaster as :) hangs well and it is something other than plaster, advantage if you have clay soil loan from you and well you primiere the matter was available then;).

In addition coated finish your control of steam so you can note may be more on the well being in your house :) .

good coating

a+

published: 15/04/11, 20:39
by dedeleco
And a sand coated Breton granite, that's fine to breathe radon !!
Pollution is sometimes unexpected !!