Dacia Sandero LPG at a 8700, 6700 5700 not euros!

[Christophe]

This is the 1er GPL series vehicle of a French manufacturer I believe no?

Dacia launches a Logan GPL at 6 700 €

The Romanian subsidiary of Renault had recently launched the Sandero GPL. Successful, she decided to continue in the LPG industry preparing to market a Logan equipped with this technology. And its 6 700EUR calling price (ecological bonus deducted) defies any competition.

We can therefore associate low-cost and AutoEcology, this is what proves Renault, by its subsidiary Dacia, by marketing its Logan in GPL version at a very advantageous price. Indeed, at 6 700EUR (2 000EUR ecological premium deducted), it is difficult to do better. This price can even be further downgraded thanks to the scrappage premium and this for the recovery of a vehicle over 10 years. We then fall at a sale price to 5 700EUR!

In addition to its unprecedented price, the Logan GPL receives the green label of Renault eco2. Indeed, the vehicle emits only 135g of CO2 / km. Another positive point, LPG is currently one of the most economical fuels for use with an average price of 0,62EUR per liter at the pump.

The model in question is a Logan 1,4L MPI from 75ch. This is called a dual mode vehicle. It has two tanks and works both with LPG and gasoline. Its operation is simple, the driver chooses his fuel through a control located on the gear knob. This allows him to enjoy a record autonomy. It is thus an economic vehicle, with the purchase as with the use. The price at the pump of LPG is very competitive, it is the cheapest fuel of France, 0.62 EUR / liter on average, and it is easily available in the Hexagon (1780 stations distribute LPG).

Dacia also wants to reassure on the field of security. The LPG equipment was designed by Landi Renzo, the specialist and world leader in the market. He climbed the Pitesti industrial site in Romania.
Finally, the Dacia Logan GPL has a warranty of 3 years or 100 000 km to the first of the terms reached.

Jérémy Levenbruck

Source http://www.webcarnews.com

I do not like these journalists who suppress bonuses and bonuses in their title ... it's still a bit of a lie ...

Good 5700 euros the car LPG to 0.62 euros / L of fuel, I think this car will make a real CARTON given the economic circumstances ...

You said: loss of purchasing power?

[I Citro]

Dacia launches a Logan GPL at 6 700 €
... Dacia also wants to reassure on the field of security. The LPG equipment was designed by Landi Renzo, the specialist and world leader in the market. He climbed the Pitesti industrial site in Romania.
Jérémy Levenbruck

Ah, Landi Renzo is world leader.

I hope they have made progress ...
I would not want for anything in the world of an Italian system on my cars ...

[Christophe]

It may be the ... world leader in LPG ... for Dacia

[Michel Kieffer]

As you know, it's worth remembering ...

... that despite slogans "I ride clean", LPG is fossil! Its emissions of CO2 and other GHGs are identical to other fossil vehicles.

What's more, with its low density, so the consumption in liters is disproportionate compared to a conventional vehicle. See the comparative table page « electric car and CO2 » http://cocyane.chez-alice.fr/energie.html

Michel

[I Citro]

As you know, it's worth remembering ...
... that despite slogans "I ride clean", LPG is fossil! Its emissions of CO2 and other GHGs are identical to other fossil vehicles.
What's more, with its low density, so the consumption in liters is disproportionate compared to a conventional vehicle. See the comparative table page « electric car and CO2 » http://cocyane.chez-alice.fr/energie.html

Yes, for the density, it is not crippling.
The advantage of LPG lies more in the absence of particles and the low level of unburnt material so well regulated. In fact, it is a "purer product" than the other fuels in which the tankers have mixed a host of additives and sometimes some "waste".
For decades, the oil companies have spent refining residues (sulfur, paraffin ...) to increase volume and increase their profits.
Today, they even add water. It is impossible for them in the LPG.

[Michel Kieffer]

QED

[Capt_Maloche]

Yes, and with some EGR recycling, exit the NOx and CO !!

[Christophe]

As you know, it's worth remembering ...

... that despite slogans "I ride clean", LPG is fossil! Its emissions of CO2 and other GHGs are identical to other fossil vehicles.

Toutafé, we have a "historical" subject on the subject ... which made some "victims"

https://www.econologie.com/forums/gpl-pas-si ... t1486.html

[Did67]

We agree, it remains a fossil fuel. NO technological break on this plane!

but:

- slightly less CO² anyway (just a question of the number of atoms in the C3H8 molecule, compared to an octane - therefore for the same energy released, a little more H2O as combustion waste and a little less CO²) - but, I repeat, not a "technological break"

- and indeed, almost no particles (that's what motivated me) and much less NOx ...

It's already that.

I have located my choice in the situation where I did not intend to do without a car, where the electric car, yes, of course, but I'm not confident about the batteries and it's the family car, holidays , long distances, ect ...

So clearly, in my case, two years ago, it was HDI or GPL ... GPL seemed to me the "less bad choice", in this narrow range. In any case, a break (I will not say more).

- extra cost for LPG equipment: fully covered by the fact that my (used) car was unsaleable in gasoline version and very under-rated compared to the same car / same equipment-options in HDI version. The difference was exactly the price of the equipment (to 200 €): 3 000 €!

- overconsumption: I have a computer that calculates what my fuel consumption would be (since the data is derived from the fuel injection computer); it is on average 8,2 l; my LPG consumption, measured at the pump, is on average 10,2 l; therefore + 24%. Is it excessive ??? Reduced to the gasoline equivalent, that would amount to around € 0,90 per liter. Of course, we "lose" a significant part of the price differential, but it remains advantageous. So the expression "disproportionate" seems to me to be disproportionate precisely.

PS: in countries where electricity is massively of "fossil" origin, it seems to me that the electric car is certainly a "break", but that it indirectly produces a lot of CO² too! In France, we can say that if it is significantly less, it is thanks to nuclear power ... (and to a lesser extent, thanks to hydraulics - and, a little bit, thanks to renewable energies). .

And what I just wrote is just as true for the very future car Hydrogen (in the current state of production H² - pending the photolysis of water ??? But chlorophyll is not not easy to copy!).

I am still in the "elements of my choice two years ago".

Well, I hope all that, it will change favorably. I fear that even in France, a switch to electricity will result in a furious revival of the nuclear program. A little like PAC ... green, but not so much that finally, if we take the problem globally ...

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[Christophe]

Michel and did you know about VE and CO2, did you see this topic: https://www.econologie.com/forums/voiture-el ... t7716.html ?

Apparently VE, can be competitive on the CO2 even with a coal energy ... provided to improve its energy efficiency (including mass reduction)