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The car of the future

published: 02/01/09, 10:46
by Michel Kieffer
The car of the future she will be more hybrid? electric ...? ... Compressed air? ... Hydrogen? ...

You will find the answers in the "Energy"of the site see in particular the comics:
- "fossil fuels, alternatives and illusions"
- "the car 2 liters per hundred, it's easy"
- "electric car and CO2"


http://www.hkw-aero.fr

Good reading

Michel Kieffer

PS: these documents present in a very simple way the essential fundamentals to understand the problem of energy. Ignoring these fundamentals opens the door to "wind sellers" and "false good ideas" as we too often encounter them today.

published: 02/01/09, 12:13
by Christophe
No problem with the link, it is not commercial and it's interesting, I think it will interest a lot of people here.

Here is the direct link to the "energy" part: http://cocyane.chez-alice.fr/energie.html

However I think the real car of the future is no car at all ... in the sense car as individual property ...

Regarding the car 2L / 100km I agree with your conclusion must reinvent the prototypes of 80 years.
I have a file on the subject "on fire": https://www.econologie.com/voitures-basse-consommation/

If you want and if you authorized heberger I direct some of your site in .pdf downloads: https://www.econologie.com with a link to your site every time recess.

ps: hopla!

published: 02/01/09, 14:16
by Michel Kieffer
Christophe,

The summary of your file being prepared https://www.econologie.com/voitures-basse-consommation/ me seems very relevant, especially to communicate to our automakers. To consolidate your sources, the site http://inter.action.free.fr proposes essential modeling elements (see the document "reflections on energy road vehicles"located at the end of the" publications "section).

For the dissemination of BD, no problem for hosting on site downloads https://www.econologie.com with a link to COCYANE. It is worth noting that these documents are updated regularly. Each new version is represented by a letter of the alphabet (increasing order). For example, the K index replaces the same document index K. The index is visible on the first page of the PDF file.

Michel Kieffer

PS: how much do we need to take off a large airliner?

published: 02/01/09, 14:51
by Remundo
Hello Mr. Kieffer,

I wanted to highlight the quality of scientific analyzes developed on your website.

I focus on my part on improving the engine (ultracompact motor), But the entire vehicle must be optimized

You speak quite rightly of inappropriate architecture of current cars and vehicles such die long been known.
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Without going to radicalize the vehicle as it should be inspired and much more enter the virtuous circle that you develop in your publications...

meilleures salutations

published: 02/01/09, 19:45
by Lietseu
And as we say now, I serious kiffe :D

(Well, okay, it's easy ... but the temptation was great :? )

What truth and what spare time!

You deserve Image for this study refreshing and so clear, that I still bears 8)

Thank you to you and welcome econology by all the Gods :P

And there, I ask myself the question: "we are never told about the impact of the disappearance of 50% of forests in the world since the creation of the British Empire and its - so profitable - colonies ..." in your opinion?

Salutations to all !

published: 02/01/09, 20:04
by Gregconstruct
Lietseu wrote:And as we say now, I serious kiffe :D

(Well, okay, it's easy ... but the temptation was great :? )


You trained us to better my dear friend ... 8)

Forest side, the Walloon forest progresses and does not regress, that's good!

Re: The car of the future

published: 02/01/09, 20:09
by Elec
Michel Kieffer wrote:The car of the future she will be more hybrid? electric ...? ... Compressed air? ... Hydrogen? ...

You will find the answers in the "Energy" of the site http://www.cocyane.com *,

Michel Kieffer



Hello Michel,

Thank you for the link to your site.
The intention of your work is interesting in my direction.

But the electric car, your presentation is based on archaic or erroneous data (it ignores data and recent concepts).

I invite you to make an update in depth, to incorporate modern concepts so that this presentation on electric may have an interest in 2009. This is in my view not the case at this stage.

NB - In one of your comics (
http://cocyane.chez-alice.fr/pdf/carburant_fossile.pdf ), You write it takes 340 m2 PV panel to power an electric car ...

To supply electricity to all the French cars (35 million units) converted to electric, you have actually 12 m2 PV by French (French 65 million). Or about 24m2 by car.

Elements of explanation here: http://www.electron-economy.org/article-25463493.html

published: 02/01/09, 20:36
by Michel Kieffer
Hello Elec,

Can you tell me more ? I will change my doc asap.

Thank you

MK

published: 02/01/09, 20:39
by Elec
Michel Kieffer wrote:Hello Elec,

Can you tell me more ? I will change my doc asap. Thank you. MK


[Passionante Telephone conversation, mutual enrichment. Michel thank you;)]

published: 02/01/09, 22:42
by Lietseu
Quality wind will help her not to contribute to the development of our future electric cars, lightweight and aerodynamic?


To be continued:

https://www.econologie.com/forums/aerogenera ... t6740.html


Good evening everyone and still a good year 2009.