Hydrogen injection into the fuel

[Superform]

The subject was treated on the forum, but here is a vehicle that uses it ...

It is not to make people consume and pollute less an everyday car, but to reduce the consumption of a sports car ...

http://www.gizmodo.fr/2008/06/22/une_supercar_qui_ne_consomme_pas_plus_quune_citadine.html

[Christophe]

Interesting it confirms what we thought

but:

According to Ronn Motors, their Scorpion supercar will not only be able to go from 0 to 100 km / h in 3,5 seconds, but it will also be very environmentally friendly with only 5,9 liters per cent.

a) the consumption is probably given at stabilized speed, 90km / h style ... surely not in the acceleration phase from 0 to 100 ...

b) it must not fail to take into account the energy of hydrogen ...

A bit easy so right? It's almost as if we take into account the fuel consumption on an LPG vehicle ...

[Remundo]

And yet another eco-friendly "Ferrari" which does not even take into account the consumption to generate the H2

Com '+10
Pragmatism -10
Honesty -20

[Christophe]

Patent pending publication for months that I have just published: PSA Peugeot patent on the injection of reformed hydrogen into the vehicle via the EGR

Extract:

(...) It has been shown that adding hydrogen-rich gas (H2) to the combustion chamber intake manifold, during recirculation of the exhaust gases, makes it possible to reduce the emissions of 'unburnt hydrocarbons (HC), carbon monoxide (CO) and soot.

(...)

The power output of the engine is thus improved while limiting the emissions of carbon products.

In known manner, fuel reforming is obtained by reacting fuel molecules with water and / or air to produce hydrogen according to the following chemical reactions ...

[Remundo]

"it was shown", moui ... by whom?

That said, it is quite possible, the injection of H2 under TDC conditions, or even at the start of the inflammation (very hot) gives H * radicals very aggressive in breaking the carbon chains.

I wrote it elsewhere, I think that the engine manufacturers have stuff in the boxes (results of measurements on benches) on non-conventional combustions, based on water or H2 in small proportions in mixture with Diesel or petrol.

Is it breathtaking? Surely not.
Can it reduce consumption / pollution by a few%? Surely.
Is it profitable to industrialize it? very clever whoever can answer.
Are there any lobbies against this work? Of course.

In any case, for now, they prefer to leave the boxes closed.

[Christophe]

So much aggressiveness and pessimism? These are not lobbies, they are technical-commercial compromises which are not, for the moment, judicious ...

It is obvious that H2 promotes combustion ... quiz: have you ever seen a hydrogen flame?

A similar system could very well be fitted on boilers (a small part of the oil is reformed) to clean up the soot ...

This is also I suppose what Maloche has succeeded, indirectly and internally via an "autogenous water injection": https://www.econologie.com/une-chaudiere ... -3830.html

[Remundo]

Ah yes, yes, I saw
http://ww3.ac-poitiers.fr/sc_phys/cyber ... /NaH2O.htm

not bad huh ?

There is neither pessimism nor aggressiveness in my previous post. Anyway, that’s not my state of mind at all, it's more an objective and synthetic observation.

I like these technologies and ideas and I would like them to be much more developed and perfected

Huh Captain Maloche!

[Christophe]

1) The flame of pure H2 is invisible, so you don't risk "seeing" it ...

2) For the rest we agree: but do not count on them to change things. The system is them who set it up and they only count in FRIC ...

[Remundo]

Absolutely it is in the ultra violet, it seems to me.

Wouldn't you be a little teasing?

For the rest, I am more of a philosopher than you, in the sense that "the famous money system" is forced by force of circumstances, precisely to make money, to turn to technologies using less oil.

Admittedly, we are still swimming a little in petroleum-finance relaunches, but all this will fade in the decades to come

And the cash system will never change. Man has always been obsessed with precious goods and money. Possession and the power it generates is written into our genes and fully expressed in the economic system.

Fortunately, laws moderate this system. I often say cheekily that socialism is nothing without capitalism and vice versa

[Christophe]

to make money, to turn to technologies using less oil.

Objection your honor, it is precisely the opposite ... for the minority which dominates the majority and for the moment at least.

For the tease yes ... but you looked for it