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For me the particle filter is a decoy because even if they are retained for a time, they are well burnt at one time or another ...
Did someone measure the pollution at that time ???

I have already done regeneration of FAP which is precarious in the maintenance of the vehicle ... (I teach auto mechanics) and well it is better not to be behind; in 10min it is a year of stored pollution which leaves !!!

By aging a diesel engine will pollute more than a petrol or LPG engine

Then the cost of bad surprises of the new diesel is quite frightening, and the Fap is to be replaced around 120000 km ...

For electric cars you have to take into account the cost and pollution when replacing the batteries because we have not yet invented eco-friendly batteries !!!

So it's all well and good but you have to weigh everything in the balance ... Before saying this is better than that

tigrou_838 wrote:look also at:

www.econologie.com/filtre-a-particle- ... s-406.html

tigrou

It is a product from rare earth (cerium or Ce, cerine is the Cerium oxide of formula CeO2) linked by a petrochemical product (Rhodia).
It is probably quite dangerous to handle pure seen the protections required by the maintenance technicians. Moreover this product is quite expensive and recess the responsibility of the driver when maintenance of the vehicle.

In addition, some foreign studies have shown that these filters actually release finer particles, which are much more dangerous for humans because they are invisible and pass more easily through the blood. The largest particles are stopped by our biological filter (mucous membranes, hairs ...)

Woodcutter wrote:The "filter regeneration"(thus the burning of the particles) produces gaseous compounds, very regularly and in a completely automatic way (approximately every 500 km) and completely" transparent "for the driver.

For the remark at the origin of this subject: I confirm yes and I am still quite surprised by the plumes of black smoke that we can still see at acceleration behind the new hdi equipped with FAP as standard ...

We just bought a new diesel equipped with fap and the pot is already slightly black after 3000 km ... so frankly I doubt ...

Christophe wrote:

Woodcutter wrote:The "filter regeneration"(thus the burning of the particles) produces gaseous compounds, very regularly and in a completely automatic way (approximately every 500 km) and completely" transparent "for the driver.

False, it is not "very" regularly ... a certain engine load is needed for the regeneration cycle to start "."

Thus the car of madam (without picture) which makes 100% of city or inter-urban and which never goes up in load has very little chance of being regenerated correctly.

Christophe wrote:Uh ... yes but no because for example the C1 hdi fap is an urban car par "excellence" ... This is at least the commercial argument of the citroën advertising campaign ...

70% of new vehicles in France are diesel, right? And 2/3 of the life of a vehicle is spent in town or peri-urban. You count ...

But hey it may change fissa since diesel is the same price as gasoline ...