Who are we laughing at? {Trophy Ecology for the Audi R8}

[Christophe]

Everything is in the title ... seen on: http://www.auto-innovations.com/actuali ... nergy.html

Ecology Trophy for the Audi R8, five times winner of 24 hours of Le Mans

The Audi R8, five times winner of 24 hours of Le Mans, just received a new award. At the headquarters of the Automobile Club de France, Dr. Wolfgang Ullrich, Head of Audi Motorsport, was awarded the 'Award of Ecology' for the winning Audi R8 last 24 hours of Le Mans. The outcomes were the fuel consumption during the race, the weight of the vehicle, its average speed lap and the engine noise. With the TFSI technology (gasoline direct injection), the three Audi R8 participating in the competition this year have placed the first three places in this ranking.

Learn more about the Audi R8 (over 600 hp): http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&q ... a=N&tab=wi

Such a trophy is simply a shame as well as the ecodesign prize for Renault!

[toftof]

Industrial and large financial want to protect and perpetuate their polluting activities. Their strategy is simple: promote activities that pollute the least (without specifying that it was point).
Put the words ecology or synonym is a good advertising pledge.

Example, If I consume 30 liters at 100 km and I go down to 25 liters at 100 km, for it is a positive ecological balance even if it is still not acceptable for the environment.

[Woodcutter]

For once the competition brings something to the car of Mr. All-the-world (well almost, it remains Audi, so expensive ... ), Which is very common nowadays in contrast to the end of the last century, it does not seem to me totally incongruous to develop, although the term "Trophy of Ecology" is badly chosen. ..

[Christophe]

What is transferred?

The TFSI system?

[Woodcutter]

Yes.

[Christophe]

Waw what innovation given that the Spitfire and Messerschmitt was equipped with gasoline direct injection in 1942 ...

Ok it was less sharp than bcp electronisée gasoline direct injection current but when you see the results of renault petrol injection (for example) both in terms of pollution and consumption (11L / 100 for space) one wonders or is the progress! .... that's why manufacturers have returned backwards and soon abandoned this technology ...

[Woodcutter]

Waw what innovation given that the Spitfire and Messerschmitt was equipped with gasoline direct injection in 1942 ...

That's good, you're a good specialist of ridiculous comparisons that bring nothing ...

Ok it was less sharp than bcp electronisée gasoline direct injection current but when you see the results of renault petrol injection (for example) both in terms of pollution and consumption (11L / 100 for space) one wonders or is the progress! .... that's why manufacturers have returned backwards and soon abandoned this technology ...

If you knew a little the subject of which you speak, you would report enormities you uttered ...

Gasoline engines were somewhat neglected in recent years as the demand on the Diesel was very strong, requiring large technological progress.
However, many manufacturers (include VAG, BMW and Alfa-Romeo) is taken over the technical improvement of gasoline and one should see as little time in the series productions benefit from this research, including direct injection .. .

[Christophe]

we should see in a short time serial production benefit from this research, including direct injection ...

The it is you who do not know what you're talking as gasoline direct injection has already been mass-produced (with the only advantage stratified charge lean in certain driving conditions) ... and this with poor results as in terms of pollution and consumption ... Motor professionals will speak in you better than me ... unless you do you even be one ... so you give lessons and defends so builders it does surprise me that has half: p

To ridicule and if you are so smarter than me, we think yields had direct injection + injection water 2ieme GM (I have managed to find by these numbers just like those for water injection WRC) and compares them with current yields direct gasoline injection ...

[Woodcutter]

we should see in a short time serial production benefit from this research, including direct injection ...

The it is you who do not know what you're talking as gasoline direct injection has already been mass-produced (with the only advantage stratified charge lean in certain driving conditions) ... and this with poor results as in terms of pollution and consumption ... Motor professionals will speak in you better than me ... unless you do you even be one ... so you give lessons and defends so builders it does surprise me that has half: p

Of course if I know what I mean ...
I never said that direct injection had never been mass produced ... It's even quite old because we find these power systems on the Mercedes SL 300 1955.
I just do not mix the few recent models (Renault Megane 2,0I ide, Mitsubishi with 1,8l) that have already been produced, and which aimed at the lean operation with what is done now.

Scoop for you, Christophe, I am not a professional of the automobile, but of Hydrobiology ...

In current engines, there are 1,6 and 2,0 FSI VAG, the 1,9 JTS Alfa and future (the first 207) 1,6 engines from the BMW Group PSA-cooperation.

To ridicule and if you are so smarter than me, we think yields had direct injection + injection water 2ieme GM (I have managed to find by these numbers just like those for water injection WRC) and compares them with current yields direct gasoline injection ...

I do not think I said I'm smarter than you, dear ouèbemestre ... You have an oversized ego problem, tell me? I think for an administrator, you often go to a certain neutrality that should be yours.
Simply, I did not say anything (well I try ...) and I do not particularly seek to turn my interlocutors in derision if I do not agree with them ...
When I talk about qqch, I try to be certain of what I'm going forward and I do not refuse the confrontation of ideas, provided that it is argued ...
For your request, sorry but I could not do you this service ... The planes, it's not really my specialty, much less than cars anyway!

PS: for the lessons, I do not see well? You say that because I took you to several places on stupid things that you had written?

[Christophe]

I do not think I said I'm smarter than you, dear ouèbemestre Cool ... You have an oversized ego problem, tell me? I think for an administrator, you often go to a certain neutrality that should be yours. Confused
Simply, I did not say anything (well I try ...) and I do not particularly seek to turn my interlocutors in derision if I do not agree with them ...

1) It is not an ego but when you insult me ​​(in public) I react like everyone else would, and by using the same method as my attackers ... is not it normal? I considered that my words were the same level as your attacks ... If I have offended you I apologize ...

2) Do not you say anything? While the PROVEN ... because you do PROVEN nothing more than me ... you glad you say that what we're doing now is better than what has been done in 42, allow me to doubt. ..or then PROVEN your statements via curves, figures ...

3) Hydrobiology? Kézako? In all cases, you treated me impartiality but I apologize but you you seem to be very biased in favor of the manufacturer (see cons about DCi / HDi) ... Besides, you did not, it seems, react to our question about the fact of using air conditioning by absorption on cars ... but it is the Off Topic ...