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by MB » 27/06/13, 11:56

Cars are generally oversized: five seats when the driver is generally alone, 1000 km of autonomy to cover 20 km per day, etc. The main problem with electric cars (their autonomy) therefore only exists because we require that a car be oversized.

If suddenly a Smart owner has to travel 500 km in the desert, without a fuel pump, you must have sufficient autonomy.
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by Christophe » 27/06/13, 13:07

Well if it exists, the problem that limits the development of electricity is the "And if one day, we want to go on vacation or see grandma who lives 300km away" ...

The basic problem is that our society is too mobile and this mobility has become far too linked to the individual car!
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by MB » 27/06/13, 13:11

Christophe wrote:Well if it exists, the problem that limits the development of electricity is the "And if one day, we want to go on vacation or see grandma who lives 300km away" ...

And if one day we need to move, we will need a semi-trailer ... so let's buy a semi-trailer for our daily trips. Exceptional needs are treated more efficiently with exceptional means (for example rental).
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by Macro » 27/06/13, 13:40

Christophe wrote:Well if it exists, the problem that limits the development of electricity is the "And if one day, we want to go on vacation or see grandma who lives 300km away" ...



daily user since can of an electric car of old generation ... I could add that what (also) limited its development is still to have tried to put on the market of electric cars (very) expensive to buy reliability somewhat doubtful ...
apart from some rare hyper rigorous and passionate users it was very complicated to get them to do more than a few tens of thousands of km without having big costs ... For more mediocre performance ...

Maybe they didn't want it to sell ...
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by Christophe » 28/06/13, 00:40

MB wrote:And if one day we need to move, we will need a semi-trailer ... so let's buy a semi-trailer for our daily trips. Exceptional needs are treated more efficiently with exceptional means (for example rental).


Moué except that going on a wk or vacation is still more frequent than moving!

I believe that psa offered a thermal vehicle if necessary in contract with the ion ...
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by Macro » 28/06/13, 08:06

Christophe wrote:
Moué except that going on a wk or vacation is still more frequent than moving!


From there comes the whole problem ... : Mrgreen:
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by BobFuck » 28/06/13, 09:04

In the city, where you need the least to breathe less fuel oil, there would be a way: instead of buying a new car at 15000 €, for the same price, take a Logan or other poor man's fund to go on weekends , and several 2 electric wheels (bikes, or scooters for the disabled).

For example, in Taiwan, this is the rush hour:

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Obviously, all these scooters stink, but within 10 years they will all be electric. Imagine the mess if each of these scooters was replaced by a car with only one person in it ...

The road improvements are suitable (many queues, bridges, lanes reserved for 2 wheels, etc.).

I went there, it's surprisingly fluid, I even rode a bike in there, it's not dangerous (scooters drive at 30 km / h) ...

It is therefore above all a problem of car - penis identification. Modern man, as soon as he has the means, prefers to stay in a traffic jam at 10 km / h on average in a car rather than choosing a faster, efficient and less polluting means of transport ...

Moreover, the Taiwanese, paradoxically, dream of a car, a symbol of social advancement, but driving by car is very ... slow ...

Back home, obviously, the public authorities are completely picking it up: for example in Lyon, Glorious Socialism has endowed us with a tram at half a billion (plus annual operating costs), all paid at 75% by the taxpayer, who spins at the Glorious average speed of 15.8 km / h (T1) or 19.15 km / h (T2), either slower than a bicycle, and counting the total journey time, go to the stop from TC, wait, connections, oula, our Glorious public transport are almost competitive with walking ... for an annual budget of 850 million, paid 75% by the taxpayer (which therefore represents roughly 850.000 bikes electrics per year, lol).
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by MB » 28/06/13, 11:58

Christophe wrote:Well if it exists, the problem that limits the development of electricity is the "And if one day, we want to go on vacation or see grandma who lives 300km away" ...

Homes with 2 cars do not need 2 cars of 4-5 places with more than 500 km of autonomy. And yet that's what they have.
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