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by Christophe » 09/01/10, 17:34

Google wants to become an electricity merchant to cut costs

From Véronique DUPONT (AFP) - 1 day ago


NEW YORK - After unveiling a phone this week, internet giant Google continues to diversify its activities and wants to become an energy merchant, an activity that would allow it to reduce its costs, its carbon footprint but also perhaps to develop synergies.

According to a document filed with the US Energy Regulatory Commission (FERC) at the end of December, the group, through a subsidiary Google Energy, asked to be able to benefit from a merchant status, with "tariffs associates ", and" general authorization "to buy and sell in the energy markets.

"It's still a new direction" for Google, remarks Jeff Kagan, independent technology analyst interviewed Friday by AFP, while the group has already unveiled Tuesday its multifunction phone "Nexus One", intended to compete with the iPhone of Apple.

Google has made its request to FERC "to have more flexibility on its energy supply for its own activities, including its data centers", very large consumers, Niki Fenwick, spokesperson for the group told AFP .

Merchant status "would increase our ability to cover our energy purchases and to incorporate renewable energies into our energy portfolio," she added.

Google's efforts to "locate its facilities near major energy sources, such as hydroelectric dams, reveal the importance of their" energy needs, Carmy Levy, another independent technology analyst, told AFP.

Google made a commitment in 2007 to reduce its CO2 emissions to achieve carbon neutrality and achieved it "in 2007 and partly for 2008," says Fenwick.

The group also announced in 2007 that it would invest in green energy. He notably launched an electronic gauge, PowerMeter, a free software allowing individuals and businesses to control their consumption. (...)


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by Flytox » 09/01/10, 20:57

Com, still com, so that we talk about them, they are rotten with money so much the better for them, they want to invest in the supply of energy, it is their choice, they want to reduce their energy costs , like everyone else, but they want to dress this diversification as a green issue and reduce their costs.

I don't have the figures, but I suppose that the difference in the price of electricity, consumed by their huge servers, supplied by others or by them, will not weigh very heavy compared to the salary of their army of computer scientists for example ... It smells like a pretext. : Mrgreen:
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by Christophe » 09/01/10, 21:30

No doubt, but it's better than nothing, right?

Nothing required them to put PV to power the GooglePlex ... at "us", the Renault Technocentre is there something green? :?: : Lol:
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by bernardd » 10/01/10, 13:22

But google has always been a pioneer in terms of saving energy in data centers, if only because they started out poor but intelligent.

They were the first:
- do not use large "servers" but rather several mainstream motherboards in the same box, with the fewest possible fans and a single power supply: saving in basic consumption;
- separate hard drives, optimizing their consumption and their temperature;
- to raise the temperatures due to their other optimizations, which allows them to reduce losses and operate longer with exchangers, without air conditioning.

On a pc, especially low price, the price of electricity consumption exceeds the price of the pc before 3 years, so they have invested heavily in the manufacture of their electricity.

And since the servers consume in a stable and statistically predictable way, they certainly have an interest in reselling their production peaks rather than storing ...
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by Christophe » 10/01/10, 14:31

Ah a connoisseur :)

For the econology host, here are the latest infos, if you know the average PUE from Google it interests me!

Hello,

In 2004, OVH developed the watercooling system to cool dedicated servers and data centers. In 2007, we improved the system with aircooling to arrive at the concept of the EcoSalle and the EcoDatacentre which will be launched in 2010 ...

Today, 70,000 servers are cooled in our EcoSalles with a
CPUE = 1.12

On FRNOG, we gave a quick presentation of R&D at OVH for 10 years. We will develop all these points through some videos that will be released ... next year ...;)

A little appetizer ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ghvnu-LwDl0

The point of all these videos is to show that in order to provide quality, performance and flexibility, you have to do things ... simply, because what is simple works well and is inexpensive ... KISS BABY KISS

KISS = keep it simple and stupid

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PUE = Power Usage Effectiveness = The energy efficiency indicator (in English PUE or Power Usage Effectiveness) of an operating center is the ratio of the total energy consumed by the operating center divided by the energy actually used by IT equipment. (wiki http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/PUE )

1.12 it is really very very low hat to OVH!

Other infos: https://www.econologie.com/forums/ecosalle-d ... t5038.html
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by bernardd » 10/01/10, 15:10

Christophe wrote:Ah a connoisseur :)

For the econology host, here are the latest infos, if you know the average PUE from Google it interests me!


It's strategic for google, no info to my knowledge, only fun things like datacenters by boat, to take advantage of the water temperature when cooling ...

I have my information cross-checked like: "ah, we were asked that too, once, and you know who it was?" ...

I also know what OVH presents.
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