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Will Google (the search engine) go crazy? Drop in relevance!




by Christophe » 13/10/16, 13:50

For the past few weeks, I have had more and more trouble finding quality information on Google: their ranking is getting really "crappy" and you have to start over several times (reformulation) to finally get good information ... Several IT specialists around me share this opinion ...

Most of the sites of the first pages are now major media sites that are constantly repumping each other the same info ... not great to get to the bottom of things ...

Worse for some time, I found a redundancy on the same domain, something that did not exist before (Google put forward the best page by domain), in image this gives this:

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In short Google, search engine, it's really more ... the fault to ... uh ... can be too much diversification, too much abuse of small clever, algo calculation limits .. .etc., etc...???

Have you noticed the same or other failures?
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by Obamot » 13/10/16, 15:13

It's been a long time since I wondered why there was such a stagnation (at least).
3 occurrences were only slightly exceeded for exploitable responses (rarely 4)
We could add restrictions / exclusions by putting a "-" in front of a word that we did not want to be taken into account, but the more we put "-" the more the number of occurrences dropped drastically without explanation.

In fact, and because of these purely artificial limitations (and at least ten years ago) google, although better than others, has always been a pretty poor tool (with all kinds of arbitrary bickering, like sometimes the limited choice of configurable dates for a given language and that kind of thing: that people end up admitting because they have no choice to do "differently" ... Like the extreme difficulty of doing detailed research among YouTube channels, while the panel is much larger with Google ...)

Does it smell like the arrival of paid "search engines"?
Reason why Google would have launched its own browser and extended its "services":
(youtube, google.map etc) and this to become a must-have platform?

... not mad the guêple! For me in the computer world (Apple included) they are all bastards. Point bar.

PS: rest Linux?
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by Christophe » 13/10/16, 15:33

Obamot wrote:Does it smell like the arrival of paid "search engines"?


Maybe I do not know...

They are already indirectly (it is not without nothing that Google has become the 1st market capitalization in 10 years ...) ... but that would be contrary to the apparently "free" policy which made the success of google ...

Obamot wrote:PS: rest Linux?


??? what is the relationship with the search engines ???
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by Christophe » 20/10/16, 13:14

And hoplà, another example of google's failure !!

Historically the "separators" (in fact the articles, pronouns or letters following an apostrophe in French) were not taken into account by Google (and it is rather logical ... although for the pronouns I have a doubt ...) ... obviously they are now and that's nonsense ...

a) Adding a single article (in the French language sense) completely derails the results * !! ?? !!!

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b) As for the content and relevance of the results on this request, it is frankly zero as you can see ... none of the first link contains any equation, however there are 3 paramotor schools so links commercial ...

That's I'm starting to really understand why google traffic from this forum, with a technical vocation, has fallen ...

Google frankly, it's time to pull yourself together !!

* flat 2 catches were taken last night and today the (still bad) results on the 2 queries are the same ... a small temporary bug so (??) ... but it does not change the substance evoked by b)
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by sherkanner » 21/10/16, 10:04

Ah, it's not just me ^^

It has become quite dramatic a few days ago or absolutely no answer corresponding to my research.

It means the sponsored links put forward at the expense of quality ...
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by Christophe » 21/10/16, 10:41

Ah it's not that me either ^^

Sponsored links certainly but also some abusive SEO techniques and the inability for Google to detect this (something it was trying to detect with ....).

Strangely I did not really see any article that referred to the recent drop in Google's performance ...
So what ? Too much optimization kills optimization?

End 2012 on forum lost 40% of its traffic from Google and this instantly (no progress: it was very visible in the server load curves) ... I never have, despite tens of hours of research (and all of even a "small" SEO experience) manages to identify the reason (s) ...

sherkanner wrote:It has become quite dramatic a few days ago or absolutely no answer corresponding to my research.


You can specify on which requests? A screenshot would be good :)
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by Christophe » 01/11/16, 22:15

And an example of shit more !!

When we look for the coefficient of lift (Cz) of a wing of a glider K8 we come across these shitty results!

Google confuses wing and island !!

It becomes serious !!


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I propose to call Google ... Gogole ... but it only works in French ...
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by Earthquake » 02/11/16, 01:23

Hello to you guys,

I am quite surprised that you make these findings only this year.

Google's search engine was a revolution from its inception, thanks to its constant "scans" of the global internet recorded on its own servers, which guaranteed the fastest responses on the web, which has earned it worldwide success. .

For many years, we have been able to do precise searches on Google with expressions in quotes (""), with pluses (+) or minus (-) in front of certain terms (the Boolean operators), and these searches returned answers precise in relation to our research.

The same searches now include all the results you didn't want. Google has sold to "words" purchased by advertisers, regionalization (location of the IP address of the requester) and probably other criteria (such as search history saved in cookies and on servers Google) many of which escape me. I'm not a member ... but it's a "friendly user" trend that satisfies many, so it's paying off!

Fortunately, after some confusion and user complaints, Google now offers the "Search Tools" feature, presenting options to narrow or broaden searches ("Word for Word", "All Countries", "All languages ​​", which makes it possible to escape certain advertising, linguistic and locator filtering, but it is still not perfect ...)

Unless you rely on some small research for small independent engines that are threatened by economic constraints:
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_de_moteurs_de_recherche#Moteurs_en_langage_naturel
there is no escape.

Yours.
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by Earthquake » 02/11/16, 03:57

Yeah, I read your messages better and I ask you to apologize for my last message.

The problems you are experiencing are indeed more serious than the previous ones ...

However, from google.ca, for search: CZ k8 wing

I get barely different results, but also the proposal:

Results, including for CZ ile k8
Search only CZ k8 wing.

If I click on the 2e choice, I get 3 first results at topmodel, so the words were bought by topmodel.

On duckduckgo.com, I get other results, more related to CZ, or to the Czech Republic.

In both cases, open and free internet no longer exists ... everything seems to have been sold.
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by Earthquake » 02/11/16, 05:13

And what is even more disturbing for relevance is that after being on the wire bistro / I'm-disappointed-in-good-the-term-Swiss-am-explain-t14964.html # p310379, I wanted to look for a vague memory of Swiss expression close to "toyet", something like "todzet".

Google returns two "tod.zet on Ebay" responses, then goes to an infinite number of "todet" responses, with no choice or explanation about the disappearance of the "z".

New and scary!

If I put a "+" before todzet, then Google gives:

Results for + touzet
No results found for + todzet

Boolean operators are dead! Google will soon manage all our "deviations" without asking our opinion!

Friendly user !!!
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