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Facebook and Apple want to freeze eggs




by Christophe » 19/10/14, 20:49

And here is the latest find of facebook !! : Evil: : Evil:

Facebook and Apple could soon finance part of the cost of freezing their employees' eggs. The goal ? "No longer choose between the career and the children". Samir Hamamah, Head of Department of Medicine and Reproductive Biology at Montpellier University Hospital, congratulates the two multinationals for their initiative.

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http://leplus.nouvelobs.com/contributio ... emmes.html

How can a doctor congratulate this?

Good he nuance all the same with:

However, for the practice to be carried out in the most total respect of the ethical rules, it is necessary that the proposal of the companies has no counterpart.


Frankly considering the treatment of privacy by facebook, do not fear counterpart is ... hum ... naive ???

The ultimate goal of these giants of the net is the most complete filing of humanity ... which includes DNA and this "proposal" is the door open to private DNA filing ...

Maybe I'm the big naive? : Shock:
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by Orcaline (GAIA) » 19/10/14, 21:23

I find it outrageous that bosses are imitating themselves in the personal lives of their employees. What right do they allow to program the formation of a family. Who are they to model and control their employees right into their rooms. C scandal We women even more than men before us we are not pawns that you manipulate to your advantage. We give life and will continue to give it when we want and not because you have it programmed for us. Sign a woman, angry mother.
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Re: Facebook and Apple want to freeze eggs




by sen-no-sen » 19/10/14, 21:32

Christophe wrote:
Frankly considering the treatment of privacy by facebook, do not fear counterpart is ... hum ... naive ???

The ultimate goal of these giants of the net is the most complete filing of humanity ... which includes DNA and this "proposal" is the door open to private DNA filing ...


You are unfortunately far below reality Christophe.
This article is unfortunately very revealing of the logic of the "system", gestation is now considered to be a "necessary evil" ***, an obstacle to production, it therefore seems logical to want to put it under control ...
As a reminder, in Japan, nearly 25% of children are born by IVF ... even though the parents do not suffer from infertility!

In our consumerist society it appears that sex will soon be more than a "leisure activity", as evidenced by the explosion of pornography and the sale of "sex toys", for reproduction there will be IVF, then parthenogenesis, and finality "the artificial uterus" ... before humans are "absorbed" by the machine ...

*** I noted "necessary evil" because for the moment it is still necessary for a majority of human beings to reproduce "in the old way" to provide slaves to the system ...
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by Christophe » 19/10/14, 21:32

Well spoken orcaline (not SMS language is even better;))!

The worst is that they brandish the equality between men and women with this proposal!

A baby would be all alone and that would be only the woman who would choose? Let no one talk to me about gender equality but this trend is very significant of the individuality of our societies!

Also freeze to postpone the date of a first pregnancy, is it really a good idea? Does the quality of the eggs simply decrease over time? I do not believe! And I think a girl who is born has already all her eggs (between 300 and 400) ...
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Re: Facebook and Apple want to freeze eggs




by Christophe » 19/10/14, 21:33

sen-no-sen wrote:You are unfortunately far below reality Christophe.
This article is unfortunately very revealing of the logic of the "system", gestation is now considered to be a "necessary evil" ***, an obstacle to production, it therefore seems logical to want to put it under control ...
As a reminder, in Japan, nearly 25% of children are born by IVF ... even though the parents do not suffer from infertility!

In our consumerist society it appears that sex will soon be more than a "leisure activity", as evidenced by the explosion of pornography and the sale of "sex toys", for reproduction there will be IVF, then parthenogenesis, and finality "the artificial uterus" ... before humans are "absorbed" by the machine ...

*** I noted "necessary evil" because for the moment it is still necessary for a majority of human beings to reproduce "in the old way" to provide slaves to the system ...


: Shock: I'm afraid you're ... right! At least all the indices converge!

I want to vomit!
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by Ahmed » 19/10/14, 21:44

Orcaline, for the system, we are all pawns and the little humanity that remains to us, because of its gratuitousness, is intolerable for it: it is necessary that, under the aegis of instrumental rationality, it submit to division of labor and its "specialists".
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by sen-no-sen » 19/10/14, 21:57

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An artificial uterus
In the next 50 years or so, women may be able to have children without being pregnant.

After in vitro fertilization, the embryos will be immersed in artificial uteri filled with synthetic amniotic fluid, connected to placental machines that will provide them for nine months the hormones and nutrients essential for their development.

It is to this mind-blowing prospect that the biologist and philosopher Henri Atlan has just devote a book that inspires the hope - or the dread - of seeing the day when women will be freed from the burdens of pregnancy and childbirth .

Research is progressing

While working on his book, Henri Atlan discovered that research on the artificial uterus already existed. For example, at Cornell University in the United States, researcher Hung-Ching Liu successfully implanted a human embryo in a receptacle lined with cells taken from a woman's uterine wall. The embryo developed quite normally for six days, and the researcher is currently pursuing her experiments with the agreement of the ethics committee of her laboratory.

In Japan, Dr. Yoshinori Kuwabara transferred to an artificial uterus, and kept alive for eighteen days, a goat fetus, extracted from her mother's womb after seventeen weeks of gestation.

Towards a liberation of the woman's body?

All these works are officially dictated by medical reasons: to allow sterile women to procreate without passing by surrogate mothers and to save very very premature babies. But, according to Henri Atlan, if the artificial uterus exists one day, it will no longer be perceived as a cure for infertility or prematurity, but as a tool for the liberation of the woman's body, just like contraception or abortion. "To the extent that a significant portion of women will see there a source of freedom from the constraints of pregnancy, it will be difficult to resist their claim to freely dispose of their bodies.

For or against the artificial uterus?
What about the consequences of the artificial uterus on humanity, the relationship between the sexes, the relationship and the well-being of children?

We asked these questions of the impertinent jurist Marcela Iacub and the philosopher Sylviane Agacinski.

FOR

The first sees only advantages to this invention. "Already, it seems to me a good thing for the health of the child. We can monitor its development without imposing aggressive examinations on its mother. But above all, this will finally bring about equality between men and women, to eliminate the fundamental dissymmetry between the sexes, between sterile women and fertile women. Kinship will be more balanced. The father and the mother will have the same distance with respect to the child, who will surely have more facility to become autonomous. There is currently a sacralisation of the belly and childbirth, in my opinion very detrimental to women. It is feared that if they were no longer in charge of procreation, everything is on the cards. The artificial uterus makes it possible to think of a different destiny for humanity and for sexual identity. Just for that, I'm for. "

AGAINST

Chancellor of equal rights in difference, Sylviane Agacinski defends a radically different position. "What bothers me in the project of artificial uterus is that freedom is associated with disembodiment and, ultimately, the disappearance of the difference between the sexes. Rather than spending money on research that does not seem to me to be a priority, we should put these resources in place to fight against discrimination. We confuse similarity and equality. Behind all this lies the idea that the carnal, always associated with the feminine, is inferior, and that progress consists in eliminating this dimension of the body. Finally, under a very avant-garde exterior, this idea joins the old Christian dream of the disembodiment and masculinization of humanity. "

MAIS

For Henri Atlan, on the contrary, assuming that humanity does not pay into totalitarianism, "the artificial uterus would put an end to the war of the sexes. Anthropologists agree that since the dawn of time, men have been fed to the procreative power of women an obscure and deadly jealousy, have begun to dominate them to control their belly and appropriate the fruit of their bowels. If this asymmetry disappears, only fraternity ... and desire will remain. "
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http://www.marieclaire.fr/,cheri-mon-bocal-a-accouche,20161,323.asp

Note that the article is from Marie Claire...women's magazine, even if the end of the text is intended to be a conclusion by balancing the pros and cons of this type of measure, the damage is done, it is a question of "freeing the body of the woman" (who would have been imprisoned by who?) of gestation!
Here we are entering the worst techno-scientist delusion, in the same way that some necromancers had accustomed us by saying that the digestive system of cows was more adapted to animal meal than grass!
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by Ahmed » 19/10/14, 23:30

This "liberation" of the female body comes at the cost of an even deeper alienation from the techno-scientist system, with, as a bonus, the inevitable social discrimination (which "deserves" to be reproduced?).
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by Christophe » 19/10/14, 23:43

men have fed women's procreative power an obscure and mortal jealousy, undertook to dominate them to control their belly and to appropriate the fruit of their entrails. If this asymmetry disappears, only fraternity ... and desire will remain. "


My God!!!!! Oh my God !!!! Brutal, what are these humps?

Sorry, but I do not have to be a man ... or a more advanced model? Bin yes am already in the box desire me! : Mrgreen:

(And when all men will do more than desire the belly of their wife, then there is still a big asshole, or rather a big bitch, which will bring out the concept of woman object boxes ...)
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by Obamot » 20/10/14, 00:38

Mark Zuckerberg and his wife, are they going "lead by example" with a selfie of their frozen gametes?

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Source: Forbes magazine.

They look cute like that ... But it would have told me it was a foul idea taken over by the Nazis, I would not have been surprised!

As for Tom Cook it's folded: for the new big boss of Apple, well it's really not his problem:

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Source: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... ve-TV.html .

They are cute no ... : Lol: But how far will we go :?:

(Edit: photos + references)
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