The 50 econological gestures in TéléMoustique

[Christophe]

Last Friday, I came across the latest Telemoustique (Belgian equivalent of Telerama I think). The title obviously hung and exceptionally I bought the magazine. What was not my surprise to see that the word "Econology" was omnipresent in the file!

After last Friday's radio show, Belgians seem largely in advance to integrate the notion of econology, the proof in image:



http://www.telemoustique.be/cps/rde/xch ... ation.html

Test your actions: http://enquetes.sanoma-magazines.be/enquete/s?s=3456

[Targol]

Compared to the "actions" listed in this link:

Test your actions: http://enquetes.sanoma-magazines.be/enquete/s?s=3456

there are certain actions that seem to me to be unreliable:

5. Heat your food in the microwave.

Given the performance of this type of oven mentioned, I am skeptical.

13. Recharge your batteries!

The best is still to avoid batteries. Using the dynamo lamps sold in econology shop, for example

23. Move quickly to the higher gear.

There, I am not sure that it is a very good advice. Rolling under steady state is not necessarily good for the engine ... I await the opinion of motor specialists like André, Bucheron or others.

26. Turn off the ignition for any stop longer than a minute.

Here, it's more of a question: does restarting not consume more than a minute of idling?

[Christophe]

Ah still it reacts !!

All the same as you Targol ... I would add:

Only use the air conditioning of your car when necessary.

-> What does “necessary” mean? We drove 100 years without air conditioning ... and it would become necessary now?

[zac]

Hello

the gag of the bike is not bad, I thought a bike was made to ride and not for metra in a car.
Their advice, in addition to seriously degrading the road holding, on the ass it consumes more than on the roof

another funny thing, but it's a constant, the survey is done for the tiny percentage of the population of the north who is interested in a computer and the planet.
In the south we must be too stupid to put crosses, yet we pollute much less

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[Christophe]

Rah Zac all the time to rally ... Is it good that they speak no? Even if it's not perfect it's a step forward ...

[zac]

Rah Zac all the time to rally ... Is it good that they speak no? Even if it's not perfect it's a step forward ...

Not my fault it's in my genes

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[Woodcutter]

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23. Move quickly to the higher gear.

There, I am not sure that it is a very good advice. Rolling under steady state is not necessarily good for the engine ... I await the opinion of motor specialists like André, Bucheron or others.

So, as long as you stay in the optimal operating range ... For example, when I drive in town, on flat and at constant speed I am in 5eme at 1000-1200 RPM, but if I have to ask for an effort to my vehicle, it will not work at all, so I have to fall back to 4 or 3 if I approach a climb, to enter the range where the engine will work better (turbo engagement), but without exceeding the value of regime where the specific conso flies, a little above the maximum torque ... Little by the way, the operating regime of the small engine 1 liter 3 turbo cylinders used as a current generator in the prototype Volt de GM runs between 1500 and 1800 rpm ...

26. Turn off the ignition for any stop longer than a minute.

Here, it's more of a question: does restarting not consume more than a minute of idling?

No, that's an idea inherited from the "waste hunting" years when the vast majority of cars were gasoline with carburettors, and where it was sometimes necessary, to restart hot, to open "full gas", which caused fuel consumption. starts the more jet in the engine with the pump of acceleration.
This is no longer the case with modern injection vehicles, all engine laps not done are a saving ...
It remains to know what is the equivalent in essence of the electric conso of a reboot ... But it will soon be a problem with vehicles that use their alternator during deceleration phases.

[Woodcutter]

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Only use the air conditioning of your car when necessary.

-> What does “necessary” mean? We drove 100 years without air conditioning ... and it would become necessary now?

To a certain extent, with the increase in the glazing surface of cars and the fact that the windows are more and more "flat", I answer yes ...

[Other]

Hello

Targol wrote:
[...] Quote:
23. Move quickly to the higher gear.
There, I am not sure that it is a very good advice. Rolling under steady state is not necessarily good for the engine ... I await the opinion of motor specialists like André, Bucheron or others.

Every engine has a diet or are yield is the best
On a diesel engine (which runs on diesel) the efficiency is at its best when the engine is running at its maximum torque with a low injection it is in these conditions that it looks more like the diesel cycle (I speak for the mechanical injections engines)
For the oil market it is the same principle but with the combustion temperature load requires ..

For gasoline engines the efficiency is a better at maximum torque but in load (unlike diesel)
less effort to syphonate through a partially closed pappillon, better filling, more compression and the ability to walk at a poorer ratio as filling increases.
This technique was developed in the 30 years on Panam planes, and was used by all bomber pilots during the Second World War, to increase aircraft range. (not for economy)
This consits to use the engine at maximum torque and increase the pitch of the propeller (load) and deplete the mixture.
Reality means that our petrol cars all have motors too big for the use we make, it would be better to have less powerful engines and use them in the 3 / 4 their power continuously.
For diesel it is otherwise, often in the same vehicle can have either a motor or a 1,5 2 liter engine liters, note that if you drive a 100km with these vehicles on the differrence consomation is approximately the same.
We also note that a golf has 4 speed and less economic than a golf 5 has same engine speed if you drive 100kmh .. (the 5 speed just runs on its maximum torque, while the 4 speed exceeds its maximum torque)

The maximum torque of a motor is determined on a bench and these values ​​are conditioned by the mechanical friction which takes on too much importance at low speed in load, and the filling which decreases at high speed. At very high speeds the linear speeds of the pistons, the rebound of the valves and the vibrations of the engine, the difficulty of evacuating the exhaust gases absorb too much energy.

To ride with the maximum torque does not mean to roll in under regime, to roll in under regime means to roll below the maximum torque, solicited the engine, the mechanical friction of the piston becomes important ..
So pass the top speed when the engine has reached its maximum torque regime .. (2400 rpm for mercedes 300TD)
and that's where the automatic gearbox changes if you do not support it too much)
Another thing I am not a specialist, just a few experiments on engines and mechanics.

Andre

[Targol]

Thank you Bucheron and André for these clarifications