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Multi-switch Brennenstuhl Premium Line Breakout Socket - 3m cable



No more power costs for your devices on standby when you're not using them! This power strip makes it possible to supply (at least) 4 electrical appliances independently of each other.

This is the ideal product in addition to the PM231 or EM240 after you analyze the consumption of your devices in standby.

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This power strip is more efficient, econologically, than the master-slave jacks whose master is permanently powered.

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Christophe wrote:This power strip is more efficient, econologically, than the master-slave jacks whose master is permanently powered.

On the other hand, the master-slave jacks, it is convenient for the dust extraction of the portable tools: one plugs the aspiro in slave, the sander (or other) in master and as soon as one lights the sander , the aspiro is tripped.

It is econological also because a portable electro tool not lit, even plugged, it must not consume masses. While the aspiro lit all the time, it's good food.

Would not you sell that? I who tinker a lot, it's the kind of stuff that would interest me a lot ...

Ben I think the electrical consumption of "DIY" do not represent a large part of your annual consumption ... in comparison to a TV or a PC .... at least for most people ...

In Brennenstuhl the 1er prices of master-slaves (with surge arrester) are 60-70 € TTC ... it's expensive and that's why we chose not to propose ....

And since we do not want to do Chinese ...

Is this article arrester (with lightning protection system)?

In fact I was looking for information on lightning surge and asked me the silly question: A plug arrester is it effective if it is not connected to the ground?

Many homes only have earthed outlets in the kitchen, garage or bathroom.

Often the living room and bedrooms are only equipped with bipolar plugs (Phase + neutral) The blocks surge arresters (computer, stereo ...) connected to these bipolar plugs are they functional?

The one does not have it ... I'm not a specialist but I think that really efficient surge arresters are often non-rebootable fuses ... so yes effective to protect the equipment but not the upstream electricity network.

And from what I understood a surge protector of particular (ie out of gear pro like brennenstuhl in fact of the genus 150 to 200 € the power strip ) protects the connected devices against surges and overcurrents but not against the lightning that would fall directly on the electrical network of the house ...

Here is a guaranteed protection: 120 000A!


http://www.brennenstuhl.de/content.php? ... etails=770

If 120 A pass through the upstream network ... I don't know what's going on but it must not be "cool" ...

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Uhhh I'm not sure of myself, but I think you're Christophe.
For me, a "standard" surge arrester has the mode of action of rerouting the surges to earth. So, no land, no protection.
Given the amount of energy involved, a simple fuse would certainly not be enough to stop the lightning.
As an example, when I worked as a summer job at EDF's subcontractor's industrial transformer service, we had to stop all the transformers at less than 10m cranes used to lift the electrodes.
If the 60 MVA is able to 10m in the air to hit a crane, I do not think that the few mm represented by a blown fuse are able to stop the power of the lightning.

For more details : http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parafoudre

Hello Targol, Happy to read you.


I think you answered my question perfectly.

So I will check my lines of land ...

Oh I was right to have a doubt ... do not stop earth or not earth explain me how we pass 120 000 A in a thread of 2,5mm²?



Brennentsuhl also told us that the arrester we were selling was destructive ... so for single use ... which contradicts your explanation a little ...

If 2.5mm wire passes 25A under 230V is 5800W.

It seems clear to me that lightning will not put 120000A under a voltage of several thousand volts. I am wrong.
The 2.5 wire will have melted before, right?

The "destructive" surge arresters as Christophe calls them are perhaps a mix of 2 technos:

• some of the energy is rerouted to the earth
• another part is absorbed by a big condo (or other electronic device that makes the soul in the case.