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Co2, that's good we heard.

But that's not all !

There is also the sun, the inertial regulating sea and the cosmos: It is the space weather very well explained here and there:
http://www.pensee-unique.fr/
http://public.web.cern.ch/public/fr/Spo ... ud-fr.html

The state and the army:
http://csat.au.af.mil/2025/volume3/vol3ch15.pdf
http://www.rense.com/general67/weather.htm

Associations:
http://www.weathermodification.org/
http://www.naiwmc.org/
(4 only TEXAS, the oldest date of 1960 ...)


Private pharmacies:
http://www.weathermod.com/
http://www.cloud-seeding.com/

Farmers :
http://ag.arizona.edu/AZWATER/arroyo/061wthr.html



But we do not talk about it or only when it comes from a dictatorship like China and more often, as in the southwest of a few days ago in an insert "Unusual!"
http://www.boingboing.net/2008/01/31/we ... ation.html
http://www.notre-planete.info/actualite ... nierie.php




To inform you freely, be sure to sit well and look for yourself:
"weather modification"
"Geoengineering"

Good subject, I'm sure! I'm sick of seeing the "big bad CO2" everywhere in all the marketing ...

Even if my thinking is HS, I too have my slap to hear that nuclear power plants is good because they produce little CO².

Aumicron you're not off topic, the nuke "clean because no CO2" is linked to "CO2 marketing" ...

Christophe wrote:Good subject, I'm sure! I'm sick of seeing the "big bad CO2" everywhere in all the marketing ...

More and more of us are responding in this way.

I intervened somewhere on this forum about CO² and cars - and I had a rather severe exchange (but not all of them, Christophe understands me) with Lumberjack, against a background of LPG, "downsizing" of my vehicle fleet ...

So the question of CO² is that of green marketing, it is also that of nuclear (in France especially), it is that of "all-Diesel" (in France too) ... We are curious, in France ? Can't find the Belgians ???

But be careful not to encourage the quidam to do nothing, on the grounds that there is not only that !!! It's often a question of formulation.

I still have a little suspicion about this type of subject, but I inquire.

And there I see a title "Climate, the causes of change ..." and further in the text "Sea"?

kistinie wrote:[...] the inertial regulating sea [...]

What is this madness ? "The sea" cause of changement climate?
I'll have to explain ...

No doubt an intellectual "bug" and a confusion between "factors which play on ..." and "causes ...".

As far as I know, the sea is more of a "buffer" (thermal, but also by storage of the CO² emitted, and even El Nino, if I am not mistaken, is no longer a consequence of warming on the circulation of water. , certainly itself a cause of climatic disturbances). Okay, I could be wrong.

That said, on my first quick read, I was also fooled ... I reasoned "factor that influences the phenomenon ..." and I forgot "causes ..." in the title.

Having said that, I do not question the role played by CO², but it is not the only factor at play. And, conversely, in the nuisances caused by "human activities", it does not. it's not just global warming !!!

Ben the sea (finally the oceans) can be a factor agravant ...

Between the acidification, the modification of the biology and in particular of the plankton (70% of the absorption of the CO2), the overthrow of the principal currents (gulf stream and other), the discharges of methane hydrate, the pack ice that disappears. ... etc etc well there are probably as many CAUSES as CONSEQUENCES to the warming in the oceans ...

Ex-Océano will tell us much more ...

Uh, little extra clarification.

As a curiosity, I went to see what we "reproached" farmers. And I came across this article - too long for me today - but which talks about "making it rain" in arid areas. It's old business. Weather = it's the weather and not the climate!

This is not about climate change, or we are not talking about the same thing. It is a question of "making it rain" clouds, which without it would perhaps only pass ...

Compared to global (planetary) and sustainable (on a human scale) climate change, we are on local and temporary (just like irrigation or reforestation - it's already a little longer). For me, it has nothing to do. We are in the other consequences (here, not really a nuisance) of human activity.

Well did67 but anyway it's always the fault of others ...

What do farmers work for? To essentially feed humanity, right? So it's mainly the fault of "those who eat" (so everyone in rich countries) ... but it's so much easier to criticize farmers ...

See you soon: Food Inc.