Warming: the offensive against skeptics

[Alain b]

Good evening everyone,
as this is my first message in this forum and that I have not seen a place or introduce myself, here is a link that will allow you to know a little more about me.

http://culte-de-la-nature.skynetblogs.b ... engagement

But back in the content of my speech.

The Inconvenient Truth by Al Gore (any character) had contributed well enough in the field of awareness of climate warming.
And encouraging thing, the subject is increasingly addressed in all areas.
Unfortunately, the "Skeptics" sign a counter offensive which risks destroying this momentum of awareness with
"The Great Global Warming Swindle"
http://powerlineblog.com/archives/017028.php

This Documentary is clearly produced as a reaction to "The Inconvenient Truth"
This achievement is in my opinion very clumsy, and in a hurry, they give us the necessary arguments to demonstrate the deception.
Because in my opinion, it would be rather:
The Swindle of the great global warming swindle.

By cons, this film can be quite effective with people who are new to the issue of global warming, hence I think the need to make rational analysis.

[Christophe]

I'll go for extremism (which I'm not ... I think) but I am not ashamed of to classify the deniers of global warming in the same bag as the revisionists and deniers of the shoa (or other "modern" genocides).

A green usually defends no financial interest (or other) ... a Holocaust denier defends in far too many cases ... no?

[Alain b]

Totally agree with you.
Only there are also many people who are less involved than us, and for those, it is in my opinion significant to explain the deception of this kind of film demonstrating because during my research I found unfortunately too people attracted to the idea conveyed through this film that looks just like a propaganda film that recalls a painful part of history.

[Christophe]

In the same genre: http://www.econologique.info/index.php/ ... bal-voxdei

"We" are treated as fascists ...

The official doctrine of global warming, which would be caused by human activity, is only a patchwork of imposed dogmas of prejudice and false science.

[Rulian]

I read.

There are not that silly stuff, attorneys in this paper. It is true that it does not really exist in a contradictory debate on global warming. Yet it is scientifically necessary. The arguments put forward against anthropogenic warming deserve to be checked.

After that, it is certain that the evangelical Protestant Christians (whose blog is claimed) are not known for the high level of their scientific thought ... It is the same ones who spoil our neurons with the "intelligent design" which is nothing but a really badly made-up creationism ...

Another one who wants to remake science with a Bible.

[zac]

Hello

What is the Bible?

do his pass in a gasifier?

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[Alain b]

According mespremières research it seems increasingly that this movie has a title more suitable:
"The swindle of The Great Global Warming Swindle", I put here the list of speakers.
The logic always taught me that the analysis of the character always gives a more realistic indication of the content of his remarks.

Broadcast network

Channel 4

realization group

Martin Durkin (Director)
Arman Eliya (Producer)
Steven Green (production manager)
Jo Locke, Patrick Smith (Researchers)
Sandra Theron (post production supervisor)
Haydn Gee (Online Editor)
Zoe Glover, Kelly Hood (Production Manager)
Arren Stromboli (Production Assistant)

Scientific group

Pr.Tim Ball (climatology Department University of Winnipeg)
Nir Shaviv
Lord Lawson of Blaby
Pr. Ian Clark (Science Department of Earth University of Ottawa)
Dr. Piers Corbyn (Climate Action Weather Forecaster)
Pr. John Christy (Lead Author IPCC)
Pr. Philip Stott (Dept. of Biogeography University of London)
Pr. Paul Reiter (IPCC Pasteur institute and Paris)
Pr. Richard Lintzen (IPCC & MIT)
Patrick Moore (Co-Founder Green Peace)
Dr. Roy Spencer (Weather Satellite Team Leader Nasa)
Pr. Patrick Michaels (Dept. Environmental Sciences University Virginia)
Nigel Calder (Former Editor, New Scientist)
James Shikwati (Economist & author)
Pr. Syun-Ichi Akasofu (Director International Arctic Research Center)
Pr. Frederick Singer (Former director US National Wether Service)
Pr. Carl Wunsch (Massachusetts Institute of Technology.
Pr. Frus Eigil Christensen (Danish National Space Center Director)
Paul Driessen (Author Green Power, Black Death)

The titles of the characters here are those given by the film itself, you will see that even this, for some, is only part of the truth (sometimes deliberately oriented Titles for more impact.)

[Rabbit]

It is not my intention to bring the water to the mill
.Car of skeptics that they have right or wrong, it is more than
time that our civilization makes counted that it destroyed
its environment and that of other creatures.
Cependent I came across this article and you have to have the humility
to consider that everything is neither black nor white, but regardless hand
between 2.
D another score if the skeptics were wrong, but that in addition CO2
the planette warms naturelement .So, it's not good at all.
We could add the fatal straw that overfilling the tank.


Article:
http://www.generation-nt.com/actualites ... ntifiques/

[Alain b]

Agree with you Rabbit, the answer may be intermediate, and in my opinion, even putting aside the warming, the damage inflicted by human ecosystems are enormous.
But in this case, we say wisdom?
-Croire Skeptics, reassurance, and not to change our lifestyles to be (probably) realize that we were wrong, but then, sorry, it's too late!
-or Be too alarmist, happen to reduce our ecological footprint and eventually realize that we overestimated the problem (although personal, I think it is still widely underestimated) but then present the Future of the best views?

In my case, I prefer the second solution.

I continue the investigation concerning the film

Channel 4

4 Channel is a British television channel of public service.
It was created by an Act of Parliament and started broadcasting on November 2 1982. Unlike the BBC public service channel, Channel 4 receives no public background. All its programs are funded by its commercial activities, including advertising.
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Channel_4

In 1997, 4 Channel broadcasts a series entitled "Against Nature" or environmentalists are compared to Nazis conspiring against the poor of this world. Again, a series having only one point of view.
Entering the event, the independent commission found that the TV personalities used to make this series were exploited and their words pulled out of the original context.
Channel 4 was forced to make an apology live.
http://www.monbiot.com/archives/2000/03 ... ied-truth/
http://www.ourcivilisation.com/aginatur/aginatur.htm


In October 2003 4 pushes Channel reality TV at its height with a Russian roulette live
http://www.toutelatele.com/article.php3?id_article=2797

2004 November, ostensibly to replace the Science, idea of ​​a program while it is most macabre film the decomposition of a Human Body
http://www.casafree.com/modules/news/ar ... toryid=197

In March 2006, 4 truncated reporting channel on Venezuela
Channel 4 prepares minds to an invasion of Venezuela John Pilger
http://www.oulala.net/Portail/article.p ... ticle=2351


2007 She does not hesitate to publish sequences unanimously qualified as "racist" during the show "Celebrity Big Brother"
http://www.liberation.fr/actualite/medias/229505.FR.php

It therefore seems obvious that when Channel 4 is rather customary sensation and research in general rule anything that can boost its audience.
Whatever the content of the program, be against the current shock and seems to be part of the line of this chain that also, regardless of morality, as long as it raporte!
All this seems to induce (but this is only my opinion) that the big lobbies are the sponsors of this documentary.

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[Alain b]

WAG TV

WAG TV is the company that has realized this film and we find Martin Durkin (Director) and Arman Eliya (Producer)

Martin Durkin Managing Director
Steven Green Head of Production
Nick Godwin Head of Documentaries
Katharine Ainger Finance Director
Clare Corcoran Production Manager
Eliya Arman Head of Development

http://www.wagtv.com/

During my research, I see that the first idea to make this film does not come from the group of Scientists.
It seems that once the idea is chosen, the members of WAG TV are then activated by many couriers to recruit some people sorted in a rather objective way, collecting their testimonies outside, and the only ones are used cuts of these recordings, often placed "out of context"
Example, contact Professor Carl Wunsch letter by Jo Locke (Member of the documentary film crew.

From: jo locke (Researches)
Sent: 19 September 2006 16: 22
To: Carl Wunsch
Cc: Eliya Arman
Subject: Climate Change Documentary

Dear Professor Wunsch,

Many thanks for Taking the time to talk to me this morning. I found it
REALLY USEFUL and the now-have derived much clearer in my mind.

I wanted to email you to outline the approach we will be with our Taking
Clarify movie to our position. We are making a feature length documentary
about global warming for Channel Four in the UK. The aim of the movie is
to examine the notion That Critically recent global warming is Primarily
Caused by industrial emission of CO2.? It explored the scientific
evidence qui jars with this hypothesis and explored alternative
Such theories have solar induced climate change. Given the Seemingly
Nature of the evidence inconclusive, it examined the background to the
apparent consensus on this issue, and highlights the dangers Involved,
Especially to Developing Nations, avocation of policies at limiting
industrial growth.

We Would like to do an interview with you to the Chat the notion That
there is a scientific consensus on the effects of global warming on the
Great Ocean Conveyor Belt, the Gulf Stream and the North Atlantic Drift.
It has-been Widely Reported That Britain and Western Europe Could soon
be plunged into a mini ice age, and we Would like to show That it is
they will not shut down. We would like to talk to you
about the numerical models and whether They give us a realistic
perspective of the impact of climate change on the oceans. We Would aussi
like to talk to you about the 'memory' of oceans, and how it can take
varying water equivalent of time for a disturbance to be readable in the North
Atlantic. Fundamentally, we would like to ask you
-have enough information about the complex kind of our climate system.
Do the records go back far enough to Identify climate trends, and can we
conclusively separate human induced changes from natural changes?

Our filming schedule is still Relatively fluid at the moment, we aim
hope to be in Boston around the second week of November. Please do not
hesitate to contact me or my producer, Eliya Arman, if you-have Any
further questions, and I look forward to hearing from you soon.

Yours sincerely,

http://ocean.mit.edu/~cwunsch/papersonl ... annel4.htm

Second example, letter of Eliya Arman under cover not of WAG TV but of a television company named "Kugelblitz" (Bizarre I can not find anything on this name as Television, the Kugelblitz on the other hand is a revolutionary tank of the army German during the Second World War.)
In this letter, another example of Scientific attempt to recruit for the topic "Earthquake" I have not been able to connect to their production.

From: "Kugelblitz"
Subject: Earthquakes
Date: Thu, Jul 12 2001

Dear Valerio,
I am doing research for a television Some company called Expired Kugelblitz 20 based in London. The research proposal is for a documentary about how humans are learning to control Nature. Your research is of great interest to me and I was wondering whether you might be ble to send me some of your published work and Possibly-have a quick chat with me about your progress.
I am try trying to find out how your visual research is so far and aussi how conclusive it is.
Actually Are you testing in the field or is it still all lab experiments?
If so, what kind of experiments are you doing in the lab and what is the time scale Predicted That You-have before you start to get results?
That do you think your work will ever be used on a real earthquake site?
If so, Where and when to do you think this might happen?
If You Could aussi include something Briefly Explains That your work in The Simplest terms as possible - ie: how does it work, Who Would it effect etc, Iwould be very grateful.
Also, if you know of anyone who is working in similar fields aussi That Attempt to control type I would be thrilled to learn of Them. My Direct line number is
+44 207 688 2165
Thank you for your time,
Yours sincerely,
Eliya Arman

http://www.ingv.it/ing/ing712/INTAS99ww ... eliya1.htm

In conclusion to this: (Shema uses that is only my opinion and based on my observations)

Client X orders a Theme from Chanel 4 ---  the Channel orders the Film from WAG TV  WAG TV is responsible for recruiting (not objectively) renowned characters and Scientists Editing interviews Result: The great global warming Swindle .

Scheme would have been more logical and credible:

Group of Scientists Convinced of Climate Scam contact WAG TV  WAG TV produces and offers Film on Channel 4  Channel 4 is showing film.