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Snow tires and winter tires, what differences?




by Christophe » 23/12/10, 19:25

Following the debate and the confusion about snow and winter tires (see here: climate-change-co2 / paris-in-the-snow snow snow-t10248.html ) Here is a small development of media:

Do not confuse snow tires and winter tires

Some claim that winter tires are only useful in snowy weather and the performance of an ordinary tire would be greater on wet and dry roads, to those of a winter tire. However, it seems that some motorists, but also some public authorities do here confusion between winter tires and snow tires.

The winter tire is a snow tire as used in countries where it snows hard and often, but a tire whose performance is superior in every respect to summer tires when the temperature falls below 7 ° C (In our regions, on average between October and March). The main advantages of winter tires are a better handling on dry or wet surfaces in cold weather, better traction on snow and ice and improved traction. This is below the 7 ° C that the qualities of winter tires are fully expressed. The special composition of the rubber mixture, mainly silicon, used since 90 years, is at the origin of this optimum performance. The rubber hardens in cold weather, which influences adhesion. The rubber tire against winter is ideal for low temperatures and retains its flexibility and therefore grip even in extreme temperatures. The winter tire has a special profile made of thin strips. Apart from adhesion, they also improve comfort and better drain water or slush. A winter tire is therefore more suitable to evacuate the rain, snow and dirt that a summer tire profile. Thereby reducing the braking distance (about 10%) and increases the adhesion. (Belga) (PBNS)


Source: http://levif.rnews.be/fr/news/actualite ... 929712.htm

Unfortunately on the name snow / winter this contradicts the notice of drawn from climate-change-co2 / paris-in-the-snow snow snow-t10248-30.html

sherkanner wrote:Good v'la confusion, I will try to untangle a little while ca.

There's been the tires, the so usually, works well for a moderate warm temperatures. Worse by cold temperatures, and true piece of wood when frozen.

Tires 4 seasons are slightly better vis-a-vis a cold, and for the snow, they are a little better than the summer tires, but insufficient. They are related to summer tires, they are not snow tires. (risk of PV in Germany / Austria with this kind of tires in winter)

Snow tires recognizable symbol with the M + S on the sidewall. Tires for snow and mud (mud and snow) and are those to be used in winter, until the temperature 10-12 ° C. If there is no risk of frost / snow, we just put the summer tires.

Studded winter tires they are actually only reserved with snow and are strongly discouraged on the asphalt. Typically, they are used only in the mountains or snow removal is not possible (or the channels must be used)

Voila, I hope it is a little clearer.


as well as http://www.pneus-online.fr/equipement-hiver.html which apparently talking tire M + S (= snow tire) as a winter tire!

Okay so who is right?

Tire M + S = winter tires or snow tires? :?: : Idea: : Cheesy: (Good article is also Belgian ... me not étonnrait we reverse the appellations between France and Belgium ... as for caravans and mobile homes)

In short any info on the difference between snow tires and winter and their appellation is welcome here!
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by Forhorse » 23/12/10, 20:07

M + S = Mud + Snow, that is to say mud and snow

For me, the M + S is therefore the "snow" tire, that is to say which settles well.
"Winter" tires are normally rubber tires that remain soft even in cold weather (well in cold weather tire manufacturers hear + 7 ° C ...)

EDIT: Note that by force of circumstances, the M + S tires are also winter tire as for their function (SETTLING) are usually made with gums very tender, whether the tire slip (car tourism) or large spikes (4x4)
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by Christophe » 24/12/10, 11:17

Ok so you are not more advanced : Mrgreen:
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by Forhorse » 24/12/10, 15:33

What is the problem ? : Shock:
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by Christophe » 25/12/10, 19:14

Ben you even you say that the distinction winter / snow is not clear ...

So I propose: = winter tire snow tire

And next are studded tires for use exclusively on snow / ice

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by Forhorse » 26/12/10, 10:01

No, I say that M + S = snow tire
that winter tires = soft compound tire
that snow tires are fatally (for constitution) of winter tire but the converse is not true.

Or more clearly:
Snow tires are winter tire BUT
all winter tire are not snow tire.
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by moby25 » 26/12/10, 11:21

Winter tires are snow tires.

Some winter tires are more suitable for snow than others.

It is a bit the same between "perfs" and "normal" summer tires.

In the same denomination summer tires we have "slick" tires and tires with more pronounced patterns.

That I do not know if I was clear : Mrgreen:
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by Christophe » 26/12/10, 14:01

Forhorse wrote:Or more clearly:
Snow tires are winter tire BUT
all winter tire are not snow tire.


Ah yes but:

moby25 wrote:Winter tires are snow tires.


: Lol: : Lol: : Lol:

In short it is still not clear ... : Cheesy:

And studded tires is snow or not? : Cheesy:
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by oiseautempete » 26/12/10, 16:26

the studded ones are "verboten", when with the snow tires as one heard them formerly that no longer exists: the M + S have replaced them ...
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by moby25 » 26/12/10, 18:07

We will say that some winter tires are + or - suitable for use pure snow
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