Bonjour à tous
A very large and very interesting document and a real mine of information on Diesel and Petrol particle emissions. One downside ... this is a document from ADEME and which makes some references to the French Petroleum Institute. These two shops are well known for their competence but also for their language of wood when their economic policy is not in phase with the information they are supposed to produce.
https://www.econologie.info/share/partag ... x4OZEj.pdf
Another doc on oil ... not to recycle ....
http://www.ene.gov.on.ca/envision/news/ ... -fs-fr.htm
A+
You said "PARTICLES"
You said "PARTICLES"
0 x
Reason is the madness of the strongest. The reason for the less strong it is madness.
[Eugène Ionesco]
http://www.editions-harmattan.fr/index. ... te&no=4132
[Eugène Ionesco]
http://www.editions-harmattan.fr/index. ... te&no=4132
-
- Moderator
- posts: 79304
- Registration: 10/02/03, 14:06
- Location: Greenhouse planet
- x 11037
The docs is good ... but it's not worth the field ...
So then I suggest that we all do the HANDKERCHIEF A LA MALOCHE test!
Because it seems that the "elimination devices" (ADEME term) are not but then not at all developed ...
Fortunately, recent cars are "clean" ...
So then I suggest that we all do the HANDKERCHIEF A LA MALOCHE test!
Because it seems that the "elimination devices" (ADEME term) are not but then not at all developed ...
Fortunately, recent cars are "clean" ...
0 x
Do a image search or an text search - Netiquette of forum
-
- Econologue expert
- posts: 4075
- Registration: 12/01/07, 08:18
- x 4
Hello everybody
On Oliomobile, they carried out a test in Switzerland, to control pollutants at the exhaust outlet, with and without oil.
The report is here
The brave Bucheron even contributed financially to this adventure
The result was positive for particles, (in oil); the rest negative
Attached is the report:
http://www.oliomobile.org/forum/viewtop ... 1efbb6ebf6
On Oliomobile, they carried out a test in Switzerland, to control pollutants at the exhaust outlet, with and without oil.
The report is here
The brave Bucheron even contributed financially to this adventure
The result was positive for particles, (in oil); the rest negative
Attached is the report:
http://www.oliomobile.org/forum/viewtop ... 1efbb6ebf6
0 x
Man is by nature a political animal (Aristotle)
-
- Econologue expert
- posts: 4075
- Registration: 12/01/07, 08:18
- x 4
Hi Flytox,
I crossed your document diagonally.
He looks good.
I'm still amazed, and surprised ...
Until now, we generally talked about particle size, but in this document, we also talk about the composition of particles.
They talk about aromatics! And that is very carcinogenic (I learned the thing when I was in my research center) (in addition, my body knows how to recognize an aromatic, I breathed them; yuck)
AROMATIC = BIG SHIT
And finally, my personal impression, to eliminate this "waste" is either to trap it in water or to burn it in some way or another.
A car that pollutes in the countryside, it passes, but streets full of cars, in a big city ... hello damage ...
I crossed your document diagonally.
He looks good.
I'm still amazed, and surprised ...
Until now, we generally talked about particle size, but in this document, we also talk about the composition of particles.
They talk about aromatics! And that is very carcinogenic (I learned the thing when I was in my research center) (in addition, my body knows how to recognize an aromatic, I breathed them; yuck)
AROMATIC = BIG SHIT
And finally, my personal impression, to eliminate this "waste" is either to trap it in water or to burn it in some way or another.
A car that pollutes in the countryside, it passes, but streets full of cars, in a big city ... hello damage ...
0 x
Man is by nature a political animal (Aristotle)
-
- Moderator
- posts: 79304
- Registration: 10/02/03, 14:06
- Location: Greenhouse planet
- x 11037
Re: You said "PARTICLES"
Flytox wrote:Another doc on oil ... not to recycle ....
http://www.ene.gov.on.ca/envision/news/ ... -fs-fr.htm
A+
Please note that this doc concerns the combustion of used oil ... from the engine!
In other words of drain oil!
Their use has been prohibited for decades in France, again we see the difference in position vis-à-vis the environment between European and American.
Otherwise the doc on particles (I apparently was not clear enough in my previous post) is very good and very complete but it is still too theoretical, voila pkoi I took the experience, which I consider significant, of Maloche as an example.
0 x
Do a image search or an text search - Netiquette of forum
Re: You said "PARTICLES"
Bonjour à tous
It seems to me that this ban on burning waste oils in France came after they realized that some clever people were also emptying their transformer insulation (Pyralene) in the same recovery process. What made an extremely toxic pollutant during combustion ...
Thank you to EDF who took great care not to warn people about the danger of this sea .. product banned for many years in many countries.
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polychloro-biph%C3%A9nyle
A+
Christophe wrote:
Please note that this doc concerns the combustion of used oil ... from the engine!
In other words of drain oil!
Their use has been prohibited for decades in France, again we see the difference in position vis-à-vis the environment between European and American.
It seems to me that this ban on burning waste oils in France came after they realized that some clever people were also emptying their transformer insulation (Pyralene) in the same recovery process. What made an extremely toxic pollutant during combustion ...
Thank you to EDF who took great care not to warn people about the danger of this sea .. product banned for many years in many countries.
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polychloro-biph%C3%A9nyle
A+
0 x
Reason is the madness of the strongest. The reason for the less strong it is madness.
[Eugène Ionesco]
http://www.editions-harmattan.fr/index. ... te&no=4132
[Eugène Ionesco]
http://www.editions-harmattan.fr/index. ... te&no=4132
-
- Moderator
- posts: 79304
- Registration: 10/02/03, 14:06
- Location: Greenhouse planet
- x 11037
Ah and it was allowed before?
Because I think the ban on pyralene is fairly recent, right?
Wasn't pyralene pollution last winter in the Rhone?
An old subject talks about it: https://www.econologie.com/forums/vieux-tran ... t1103.html
Because I think the ban on pyralene is fairly recent, right?
Wasn't pyralene pollution last winter in the Rhone?
An old subject talks about it: https://www.econologie.com/forums/vieux-tran ... t1103.html
0 x
Do a image search or an text search - Netiquette of forum
An article "Pyralène" which makes you want to stack ....
http://www.naturavox.fr/article.php3?id_article=2135
Finally, we deviate from the subject ....
A+
http://www.naturavox.fr/article.php3?id_article=2135
Although the Secretary of State for Ecology was reassured by the simple fact that this PCB ban 20 years old, and that one cannot, it seems, accuse the State of laxity in this file, it nonetheless raised the problems linked to depollution.
Finally, we deviate from the subject ....
A+
0 x
Reason is the madness of the strongest. The reason for the less strong it is madness.
[Eugène Ionesco]
http://www.editions-harmattan.fr/index. ... te&no=4132
[Eugène Ionesco]
http://www.editions-harmattan.fr/index. ... te&no=4132
Hello jonule
Well oil is sea ...
Used engine oil is from the sea ... ^ 2
Filtration helps to concentrate the sea ...
Distillation separates the chia ... from the turds.
As Coluche would have said, "follow the yellow line ....".
In any case, this will take us directly to the gas station attendant to tell him: "More, more !!".
A+
jonule wrote:well well.
what is the difference in harmfulness between:
- oil
- used engine oil
filtration?
distillation?
Well oil is sea ...
Used engine oil is from the sea ... ^ 2
Filtration helps to concentrate the sea ...
Distillation separates the chia ... from the turds.
As Coluche would have said, "follow the yellow line ....".
In any case, this will take us directly to the gas station attendant to tell him: "More, more !!".
A+
0 x
Reason is the madness of the strongest. The reason for the less strong it is madness.
[Eugène Ionesco]
http://www.editions-harmattan.fr/index. ... te&no=4132
[Eugène Ionesco]
http://www.editions-harmattan.fr/index. ... te&no=4132
-
- Similar topics
- Replies
- views
- Last message
-
- 23 Replies
- 1539 views
-
Last message by DrBombay
View the latest post
11/03/24, 15:55A subject posted in the forum : Economy and finance, sustainability, growth, GDP, ecological tax systems
-
- 6 Replies
- 6423 views
-
Last message by phil59
View the latest post
20/12/22, 14:14A subject posted in the forum : Economy and finance, sustainability, growth, GDP, ecological tax systems
-
- 158 Replies
- 45256 views
-
Last message by Remundo
View the latest post
01/01/20, 14:34A subject posted in the forum : Economy and finance, sustainability, growth, GDP, ecological tax systems
-
- 1 Replies
- 2797 views
-
Last message by Christophe
View the latest post
18/09/12, 09:09A subject posted in the forum : Economy and finance, sustainability, growth, GDP, ecological tax systems
-
- 5 Replies
- 4248 views
-
Last message by coucou789456
View the latest post
22/03/09, 12:19A subject posted in the forum : Economy and finance, sustainability, growth, GDP, ecological tax systems
Back to "Economy and finance, sustainability, growth, GDP, ecological tax systems"
Who is online ?
Users browsing this forum : No registered users and 106 guests