You said "PARTICLES"

[Flytox]

Bonjour à tous


A very large and very interesting document and a real mine of information on Diesel and Petrol particle emissions. One downside ... this is a document from ADEME and which makes some references to the French Petroleum Institute. These two shops are well known for their competence but also for their language of wood when their economic policy is not in phase with the information they are supposed to produce.

https://www.econologie.info/share/partag ... x4OZEj.pdf

Another doc on oil ... not to recycle ....

http://www.ene.gov.on.ca/envision/news/ ... -fs-fr.htm

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[Christophe]

The docs is good ... but it's not worth the field ...

So then I suggest that we all do the HANDKERCHIEF A LA MALOCHE test!

Because it seems that the "elimination devices" (ADEME term) are not but then not at all developed ...



Fortunately, recent cars are "clean" ...

[the middle]

Hello everybody
On Oliomobile, they carried out a test in Switzerland, to control pollutants at the exhaust outlet, with and without oil.
The report is here
The brave Bucheron even contributed financially to this adventure
The result was positive for particles, (in oil); the rest negative
Attached is the report:
http://www.oliomobile.org/forum/viewtop ... 1efbb6ebf6

[the middle]

Hi Flytox,
I crossed your document diagonally.
He looks good.
I'm still amazed, and surprised ...
Until now, we generally talked about particle size, but in this document, we also talk about the composition of particles.
They talk about aromatics! And that is very carcinogenic (I learned the thing when I was in my research center) (in addition, my body knows how to recognize an aromatic, I breathed them; yuck)
AROMATIC = BIG SHIT
And finally, my personal impression, to eliminate this "waste" is either to trap it in water or to burn it in some way or another.
A car that pollutes in the countryside, it passes, but streets full of cars, in a big city ... hello damage ...

[Christophe]

Another doc on oil ... not to recycle ....

http://www.ene.gov.on.ca/envision/news/ ... -fs-fr.htm

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Please note that this doc concerns the combustion of used oil ... from the engine!

In other words of drain oil!
Their use has been prohibited for decades in France, again we see the difference in position vis-à-vis the environment between European and American.

Otherwise the doc on particles (I apparently was not clear enough in my previous post) is very good and very complete but it is still too theoretical, voila pkoi I took the experience, which I consider significant, of Maloche as an example.

[Flytox]

Bonjour à tous

Please note that this doc concerns the combustion of used oil ... from the engine!

In other words of drain oil!
Their use has been prohibited for decades in France, again we see the difference in position vis-à-vis the environment between European and American.

It seems to me that this ban on burning waste oils in France came after they realized that some clever people were also emptying their transformer insulation (Pyralene) in the same recovery process. What made an extremely toxic pollutant during combustion ...

Thank you to EDF who took great care not to warn people about the danger of this sea .. product banned for many years in many countries.

http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polychloro-biph%C3%A9nyle

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[Christophe]

Ah and it was allowed before?

Because I think the ban on pyralene is fairly recent, right?

Wasn't pyralene pollution last winter in the Rhone?
An old subject talks about it: https://www.econologie.com/forums/vieux-tran ... t1103.html

[Flytox]

An article "Pyralène" which makes you want to stack ....

http://www.naturavox.fr/article.php3?id_article=2135

Although the Secretary of State for Ecology was reassured by the simple fact that this PCB ban 20 years old, and that one cannot, it seems, accuse the State of laxity in this file, it nonetheless raised the problems linked to depollution.

Finally, we deviate from the subject ....
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[jonule]

well well.

what is the difference in harmfulness between:
- oil
- used engine oil

filtration?
distillation?

[Flytox]

Hello jonule

well well.

what is the difference in harmfulness between:
- oil
- used engine oil

filtration?
distillation?

Well oil is sea ...
Used engine oil is from the sea ... ^ 2
Filtration helps to concentrate the sea ...
Distillation separates the chia ... from the turds.
As Coluche would have said, "follow the yellow line ....".
In any case, this will take us directly to the gas station attendant to tell him: "More, more !!".
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