The current manipulation of the currency and exchange systems is the most important scandal with the most marked consequences of our time. For the first time, money scams are reaching global dimensions because they take place all over the world, they can no longer be controlled, stopped or prevented by any government, and they even take place in a legally legal way, in accordance with laws. obsolete national However, it is certain that money scam, like any other scam, can not enrich the criminals in the long term by the impoverishment of their victims, since one can not abuse any liberal monetary system in the long term.
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Christophe wrote:However, it is certain that money scam, like any other scam, can not enrich the criminals in the long term by the impoverishment of their victims, since one can not abuse any liberal monetary system in the long term.
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I would just like to make a correction, these are not "liberal monetary systems", the only liberal monetary system is one of competition between currencies, where the "manipulators" are quickly ejected; no one wants to use their currency anymore.
Instead, we have to deal with a socialist monetary system, the interest rate, the monetary creation and, no the less the legal tender of the central bank notes which ensures that no bank offering more money for men will ever see the light of day. And of course all this system is controlled by a centralized state agency (the European Central Bank)! All the opposite of liberalism!
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To answer to Melt_core and in its "correction", the word "liberal" is used here in its usual sense.
I readily admit its ambiguity since this terminology covers, literally, only a utopia that exists nowhere.
She is only the marketing packaging of the law of the strongest.
States that have historically developed a strong industry or activity under the protection of customs barriers hasten to become liberals as soon as this force is sufficient to secure their supremacy beyond their borders.
@ Christophe : I am very skeptical about your entire message, except for the last sentence, because I do not understand at all: could you be clearer?
I readily admit its ambiguity since this terminology covers, literally, only a utopia that exists nowhere.
She is only the marketing packaging of the law of the strongest.
States that have historically developed a strong industry or activity under the protection of customs barriers hasten to become liberals as soon as this force is sufficient to secure their supremacy beyond their borders.
@ Christophe : I am very skeptical about your entire message, except for the last sentence, because I do not understand at all: could you be clearer?
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Ahmed: Chris talks about money creation
For those who do not yet know (simple) it is the (so-called) financial institutions that created it.
When: it's the moment ... yep you want to build but you do not have a tune
Why: Fuck is the moment ... the market is donf
How: I will see them (Financial Institution)
NAN that's not true
On your own initiative you do not plan to build.
Hey Manu you buy! .... Hey why?
NAN we suggest that (may be) it's possible ... Yes You Can
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Yes all of this makes money creation
And debt
And when it's not framed
STYLE
you're poor but you can get into debt ... trust
we will help you under the spotlights
YOUR COURSES
And after
Ben after you have shortness of breath
You're short, short
But money creation there was eueee!
EXCEPT
If short, no one wants to honor your debt!
And there you go ... you ... but not the CREATRICES OF RICHESSE (S)
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Hello
Is everyone OK?
Good!
I hate the controversy
Ahmed: Chris talks about money creation
For those who do not yet know (simple) it is the (so-called) financial institutions that created it.
When: it's the moment ... yep you want to build but you do not have a tune
Why: Fuck is the moment ... the market is donf
How: I will see them (Financial Institution)
NAN that's not true
On your own initiative you do not plan to build.
Hey Manu you buy! .... Hey why?
NAN we suggest that (may be) it's possible ... Yes You Can
PUB Prospectus Real Estate Agent Loi machin-truc Tax Deduction Guaranteed Rent Guaranteed Rentability
Yes all of this makes money creation
And debt
And when it's not framed
STYLE
you're poor but you can get into debt ... trust
we will help you under the spotlights
YOUR COURSES
And after
Ben after you have shortness of breath
You're short, short
But money creation there was eueee!
EXCEPT
If short, no one wants to honor your debt!
And there you go ... you ... but not the CREATRICES OF RICHESSE (S)
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(CercleFinance.com) - The CAC40 relapsed from -0,9% (at 3.976Pts) and wiped out - to one point - its yesterday's gains (starting from a close of 3.975Pts Monday night).
Paris will have maintained for a dozen hours, straddling 2 sessions above the 4.000Pts but without achieving a decisive breakthrough towards the 4.080Pts (zenith end of April and mid-January 2010) despite a sharp increase in volumes ( not far from 4MdsE traded this Wednesday).
Did the sellers wait for a new contingent of optimistic investors at the turn?
Is this a simple epidermic reaction to the disappointment caused by the quarters of American Express, Mellon Bank and Goldman Sachs (profits down by -53% on a decline in brokerage revenues)?
The euphoric bubble following the placement of 10MdsE Portuguese, Spanish and Italian treasury bills last week is deflating while the ECB (which multiplied by 10 the amount of its 10-denominated Euro denominated debt purchases at 15 in January ) would have practically picked up everything that appeared on the market to ensure the apparent success of these programs?
The inexorable rise of Wall Street since 8 weeks begins to raise questions (the FED is injecting money, investment banks invest a large part in stock markets or commodities, not in the real economy: does this correspond to the vocation of 'QE-2' ) ?
There are plenty of reasons, including bad economic numbers in the US, to justify Wall Street consolidation and European indices, which are down by -0,45% on average (according to the EuroStoxx50).
London and Frankfurt are down by -1,3 and -0,85% respectively, Amsterdam by -1,6%.
I love these texts in parentheses which enlighten us on details, that we should not know ...
so if I understand correctly, it recreates a financial bubble with the cash of the QE-2, bubble totally disconnected from the real activity, which enriches the bankers, and who will be happy to burst at the first opportunity, ruining the real investors.
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Ahmed wrote:Well, OK, that I understood; what I do not understand is that it seems to me that Christophe condemns a purely speculative economy for the benefit of a "real" economy which would be virtuous.
But, let him express himself ...
It is more or less that (I did not read everything above, it's been a few months ...), with the difference that I would not say "for the benefit" but "which works at the expense".
The real economy is not necessarily virtuous by default, but it is more "palatable" and more "human" than high finance ...
It is the real economy that should define the stock market variations and not the other way around!
In other words: in a "healthy" financial system, the stock market is a consequence of the real economy, not a cause!
ps: the original subject dates from 2006 ... so very old ... my opinion may have changed since then.
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How do you distinguish a speculator from a real manufacturer ??
Difficult in my opinion, because the manufacturer also manufactures by speculating that the selling price will be higher than its manufacturing price, and you risk that some pretend to manufacture, as it already happens !!
Any regulation has its perverse effects to weigh well and often unforeseen !!
Difficult in my opinion, because the manufacturer also manufactures by speculating that the selling price will be higher than its manufacturing price, and you risk that some pretend to manufacture, as it already happens !!
Any regulation has its perverse effects to weigh well and often unforeseen !!
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What must be distinguished is especially the speculator of the investor ... and it is almost impossible mission.
Only certainty: it was healthier when there were still paper actions ...
Only certainty: it was healthier when there were still paper actions ...
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